When they are newborns, they really need round the clock care. They feed every 2-3 hours need to be changed burped all the time and they need a lot of physical contact. Of course, you ease away from that as they get older, but we're talking about leave to care for newborns.
You may think so, but the opposite is likely true. Most of the new progeny on the earth are increasingly more and more useless. The Pareto Principle in effect, 20% will produce 80% for the future.
Look, I love to drink and come into work hungover. Maybe they should give me an extra day off since I'll be relatively useless at work that day.
That principle works no matter how many people are in the principle's sample size. So a larger population gets more done than a smaller once, because 20% of a larger population is more than 20% of a smaller one. You are more useless than your parents; should you be killed now?
Doesn't matter. You want people to have to choose between caring for their child or getting no income for 12 weeks. How will it benefit society to have kids that were not well cared for as newborns? Just go do a bit of research on how early care affects kids long term. They're going to be running the world when you're an old man...what kind of world do you want to live in?
I don't give a shit. Give people who don't have kids the same amount of time off then. Its total bullshit that because you CHOSE to have kids you get additional paid time off. If they really wanted to raise their kids then go ahead, get no income for 12 weeks then and deal with it. Or have an abortion if you can't handle it. Again, this is all voluntary to have kids and truth be told, having kids is a selfish act to recreate another copy of yourself. Its not a vehicle for the betterment of society, its so you're not so lonely and you want to have fun in your life and you can show them off. Should not be rewarded with extra paid time off.
Anybody ever seen No Country For Old Men.... Anton Chugr, as cold blood and ruthless a killer as ever portrayed in film..... looks in his rear view mirror and nervously guns his car into oncoming traffic. .... only for little kids on bikes to catch up with him and get money for a bloody t-shirt. That's a handy image. "I'm afraid I'm over matched." "You can't stop what's coming." F'n A Tommy. F'n A. The next generation..... and the next generation...... and so on.
I'm aware of this. My wife stopped working when our first was born so she could provide that care during the workday. She also provided in-home day care for other children whose parents weren't willing/able to do the same. I got up as often during the night as she did (only for 2-3 months though each time, because we had our kids sleeping through the night very early), and didn't take any paternity leave. But we also had dates without our newborn as early as 11 days after birth, because we decided early on that we weren't going to be the parents whose lives were wholly wrapped up in every minute of their children's. And when she did go back to work, she found a place where the kids could come in with her, so much like @dviss1, or kids have never been in day care either. It's all about choices and priorities. We made choices to accommodate our priorities, and are happier because of it.
Some of you people are so full of shit. Other countries have been doing stuff like this for decades. Evolve your minds.
Except this is language revolving around giving monetary benefits to a certain class of society. If, for example men received paid time off for hunting, and women did not, you bet there would be an issue with that. Hell It doesnt even have to be man vs women, it just could be the fact that you go hunting, or insert whatever the fuck.
It's not about evolving minds. I actually like this. But I can see both sides to the issue unlike some.
Well, if you don't give a shit, I'd say that just shows what a lame brain you are. You don't care about the bigger society implications, all you want to do is bitch that you're not getting time off. And I imagine you are choosing to not have kids, unless you are single or infertile. So what differences does that make? And if people stop having kids, humanity will go extinct. But I suppose you don't give a shit about that either, you just want a couple of weeks off aye? Well then, why don't you chose to quit your job, and start looking for another one 12 weeks later?
The other side of the argument is simply being selfish. Not having a child sure it means you don't get leave. So the fuck what? If you choose to have one you'd get it too.
