"... Keep an eye on this rumor: The Hawks eyeing Dallas' little-used point guard, Anthony Johnson, for unhappy Salim Stoudamire and throw-in Esteban Batista." from Chris McCosky: Around the NBA, Detroit News"The Mavericks plan to take a hard look at Chris Webber if and when the former All-Star power forward gets released by the Philadelphia 76ers."http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/sports/16427901.htmI wouldn't mind either happening. Picking up C-Webb would be nice and as much as I like George, it would be nice to have a legit 4 behind Dirk. Also, regarding the Salim rumor. Reminds me of a young Nick Van Exel. And seeing as our bench lacks shooting/scoring, he would be a nice pickup.
Not so much into the CWebber crap. Regardless how cheap Mavs could get him. I can promise his knees or something will die. Ofcourse I still have Najera in mind, lol.As for Salim. That would be awesome. We need a shooter. Salim fits alot of points as a good shooter...clutch, free throws, vision. I'd love to have him on the team and playing in the rotation
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BALLAHOLLIC? @ Jan 10 2007, 03:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The Dallas Mavericks would be a WORSE team with Chris Webber, trust me.</div>Amen to that. Dallas can kiss their world championship aspirations goodbye if they sign Webber. I guarantee you that.
I dont really see a plus side on Mavs getting Webber. It doesn't make since. Yeah Corhsere or w/e his name is sucks. But im fine with Devean George being a back up rotation guy. Its almost a waste ever bothering looking at Webber. 14 years pro and someone who will probably get hurt. All is see is a big fat cancer
With Webber, I think it's a low risk/high reward signing. If he doesn't pan out, he won't be hard to waive. If he does, then we reap the benefits of a vet signing. I don't think it's a bad idea to take a flyer on him at all right now.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>With Webber, I think it's a low risk/high reward signing. If he doesn't pan out, he won't be hard to waive. If he does, then we reap the benefits of a vet signing. I don't think it's a bad idea to take a flyer on him at all right now.</div>I agree, I don't think it's a huge issue. He could certainly be somewhat productive, just as productive as "ericka" Dampier. He can grab some rebounds and make a few dishes. Also even if he does go to Dallas it's not like he'll be starting or something. He'll be playing minimal minutes.The only thing that would kill him is those awful jumpers which are insanely inconsistent. Even if he started getting into that groove Avery could just bench him. I'd rather see him go to a good team, not the Knicks. I mean let's face it, Webber deserves a ring. And he has a great chance getting one in Dallas.
George>WebberBuckner>Webber and I doubt Stackhouse's minutes will be effected by this so Webber will be stealing minutes or role players that are key to the mavs improved defense and outside shooting. Webber also seems to have me first personality by mentioning he wants to get a lot of minutes rather than saying he wants to win a championship.
How does Webber effect Buckner?<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Webber also seems to have me first personality by mentioning he wants to get a lot of minutes rather than saying he wants to win a championship.</div>That explains why he's one of the better big man passers in this league. Also, this whole situation basically says he wants to win a ring, not get minutes. Why else would he leave the situation in Philly?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rok @ Jan 11 2007, 05:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>How does Webber effect Buckner?That explains why he's one of the better big man passers in this league. Also, this whole situation basically says he wants to win a ring, not get minutes. Why else would he leave the situation in Philly?</div>Stackhouse to the 2, George to the 3, and Webber at the 4 which takes takes Buckner out of the rotation. Webber has not been the same since the knee surgery. Philly became one of the worse defensive teams when Webber joined there a long with low percentage shooting.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Stackhouse to the 2, George to the 3, and Webber at the 4 which takes takes Buckner out of the rotation.</div>If that's the case, than I see nothing wrong with it. Instead of players playing out of position, it puts Stack and George at their key positions. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Philly became one of the worse defensive teams when Webber joined there a long with low percentage shooting.</div>Just look at the team. Your going to put all that on Webber?
Well considering Philadelphia was a better team before Webber than yeah. Also Webber may be a good passer but he seems to be shooting a lot more than passing. I like what George brings at the 4 and Stackhouse is more of a 3 now because of losing his athleticism. Buckner is the defensive stopper coming off the bench. I guess I value defense more than you.
You know, I really wouldnt mind either of the moves. Both Salim and Webber would bring some much needed offense off the bench. Both would be pretty cheap. With either move, we would have to let go Pops or Barea. Barea most likely since Pops is doing pretty good in the D-league. I'm guessing Webber would only get a 1year deal from us which would make sense. Webber would give us a lot of things to our team. I kind of think he wouldnt be that bad of a signing. Everyone knows he would be benched if he didnt play D or if he was hurting the team. Avery is that kind of coach. He has some kind of idea on the situation if he wants to come here. He knows:A-He would backup DirkB-Will have to play defenseC-Wont get a ton of shot attemptsD-Wont get a ton of minutes. If all that is worth a shot at a ring, then I dont think there should be a problem. A lot of ya'll are making Webber into a team cancer like a Artest or Marbury. On that note, I would much rather have the Salim deal. Like Rok said, he reminds you of NVE when he plays. Johnson really doesn't fit the Mavs offense. He's not a threat when he comes off the screen. Everyone knows the Mavs offense is based on iso's and pick and rolls. Harris, Terry, Stack are all threats off screens. They can either shoot or drive. Johnson cant do either with his lack of a great shot and slow speed. Salim would fit the offense much better. Either deal would bring offense off the bench. To much to my suprise, everyone loves this bench that the Mavs have, but I still think we need a 2nd scorer off of it. Last year we had Stack and Harris. This year we have a older Stack and thats it. Yes, George, Buck, and Croshere can hit the open shot, but they sure as hell cant score on iso plays. Either player would be a good move in my opinion.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Well considering Philadelphia was a better team before Webber than yeah. Also Webber may be a good passer but he seems to be shooting a lot more than passing. I like what George brings at the 4 and Stackhouse is more of a 3 now because of losing his athleticism. Buckner is the defensive stopper coming off the bench. I guess I value defense more than you.</div>Better in how? They were a bad team, that's why they made the deal in the first place. And unless you prove to me how Webber made everyone shoot a lower fg and not play d, your point is moot. And wow so because Webb may come in and take Buck out of the rotation. I don't value defense. Great analysis mavsfan. That's so why I want Webb. and hate defense and babbled on why the Suns aren't complete because they don't play enough defense. I value it less than you. Wow.Seeing as Webb is a true 4, I think he would bring good minutes behind Dirk and I know he's not a good defender. But I think his shortcomings would be covered just like how Dirk's is covered at times. With a defensive center and a defensive swing/guard. If this means someone may be out of the rotation, than so be it. That does not mean I value anything less.
Webber's not a good offensive player either. I would rather have Mbenga get minutes than Webber. Webber should retire. Dallas is doing great without Webber so no need to screw up the chemistry. George needs more minutes to get in a flow so yeah I think it is important that he gets more like 20-25 minutes rather than 10-12 minutes to get in a groove.
I dont think Webber would scew up chemistry at all. What did people say when Rasheed got traded to the Pistons? What happened when Stack got traded to Dallas? Iverson to Denver? Artest to Sacramento? They all fit in well. I dont think Webber would be much of a problem at all. Sometimes when critics say crap about players, they go into the situation with that as a motive to prove them wrong. I think Webber would do the same.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Webber's not a good offensive player either. I would rather have Mbenga get minutes than Webber. Webber should retire. Dallas is doing great without Webber so no need to screw up the chemistry. George needs more minutes to get in a flow so yeah I think it is important that gets more like 20-25 minutes rather than 10-12 minutes to get in a groove.</div>I agree in the bold but Benga over Webber? The thing I like about Webber and one thing he still has is his passing. Also, his ability on the low block, he's put up some decent numbers this year. He's not done. I'm not looking for anything big from C-Webb. To me, he's just a guy looking for a chance to win and Dallas has great success with those players. He's not a guy Dallas will revamp for.
Well Walker put up numbers in Dallas to. I feel that Webber has some of the same characteristics that Walker has. I feel Webber thinks he's better than he is or has too much of an ego to take a limited role on this team. I would be shocked if he chose us for that reason.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Well Walker put up numbers in Dallas to.</div>Right, so what made you say this, considering I just said I wouldn't expect anything big from C-Webb.
So you are in the middle on this. You don't think Webber's great or he sucks. The main thing is I don't think Webber will except just a backup role to Dirk. He will want more just like Walker wanted more and that's the reason I don't like the addition. I even think George at the 4 is a better option than Webber. If Webber does accept just a backup role to Dirk than I guess it won't hurt us too much.
