Official off-season thread

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  1. Ranger71

    Ranger71 Well-Known Member

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    The team didn't quit on him Mel they just got exposed around the net and blitzed in the last 2. I guarantee they didn't give up.
     
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    chuckd3534 Well-Known Member

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    Well said Prod. We agree. I am admittedly not a big Yandle guy, but if we could move Staal I would at least entertain the idea. As you said if we cannot move Staal it is a non-starter...we agree 100%.

    Also agree on Hayes. I do not love him, but if we can get him for 2 mill TOPS why would that be a bad move. No way he is a 3 mill cap hit guys after this season, but at 2 mill...sure.
     
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    It would certainly make many of us very happy if that was to happen. The problem is the Rangers will be one of many teams in on him and the Rangers will not be in the best cap situation unless they do a lot.
     
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    CK does not need to hit the weight room. He needs to see a good therapist so he can unscrew his stupidity. Hayes is lazy and did nothing in the offseason. I saw Hayes gasping for air pretty much after every single shift this season. His conditioning and foot speed sucks.
     
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    chuckd3534 Well-Known Member

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    I would love to see Stamkos...he is a franchise guy. Don't see him back in TB. Maybe us, Toronto, and a few others as the main teams. Even if we had to buyout Nash and add a couple of 2.7 dead cap years on the end I would do it to get Stamkos.

    I think AV is back after one early exit, but I admit I hate how we played this season. I HATE the comments I am seeing after the L today. I hate the lack of passion. A lot I don't like about this season, and I admit it concerns me looking forward. Hope it is something we can put in the past after a couple of weeks.

    The marriage of Torts discipline and AV freewheeling was really good the past couple of years. I hope now that Torts influence is gone we aren't left with a wide open AV system with no D zone discipline. That's why I am in the middle on AV. You could convince me we should hire a D coach to replace AV and then get the AV open play combined with a D coach again. The reverse of what we had in AV's first two years here with Torts influence and AV's system.
     
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    Stepupstepan Well-Known Member

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    The marriage of Torts discipline and AV freewheeling was really good the past couple of years. I hope now that Torts influence is gone we aren't left with a wide open AV system with no D zone discipline. That's why I am in the middle on AV. You could convince me we should hire a D coach to replace AV and then get the AV open play combined with a D coach again. The reverse of what we had in AV's first two years here with Torts influence and AV's system.

    Say What?
     
  7. Ranger71

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    There isn't much he could've coached differently in this series. Players were just not alert enough or quick enough on a bunch of goals.
     
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    If you want to get Stammer here then either brassard or stepan must go.
     
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    I don't agree with that. I think Nash at 7.8 would have to go (along with G or Staal). Not 5 mill Brass or 6.5 mill Stepan.
     
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    Miller, Kreider, Hayes, Buch, Fast, McIlrath, and Skjei all won't make a ton of money next season. Brass reasonable at 5 mill. Zucc reasonable at 4.5. McD reasonable at 4.7. Klein reasonable at 2.9.

    Those are all reasonable deals. And I would say Step at 6.5 is not awful.

    It is the Nash, Hank, G, and Staal deals that are the issues. That's it really. Those 4 bad deals. That's why I say again we CANNOT have Staal AND G back. And we 10000000000% cannot have Staal, G, and Nash all back.
     
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    Nash is a winger. You need legit wingers for stammer. Unless they can get stepan to move to a wing, that would be ideal.
     
  12. chuckd3534

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    You certainly could move Step to wing. And at 7.8 mill Nash is one of the worst cap hits in the league I think. A player with that big of a cap hit needs to be a stud, Nash is not a stud. Hard to have Nash and Stamkos here when Hank is at 8.5 already.

    Move Step to wing if need be.
     
  13. Ranger71

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    If Eric wants to go back to Carolina maybe you could package Marc and Hayes together. The Rangers may be willing to eat some salary. The Canes have plenty of cap room i believe.
     
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    I still seriously doubt the Rangers eat dead salary for 3 or 4 years. Seems very unlikely unless they have no other choice, and have something big lined up in combo like Stamkos.

    If the Staal's were a Canes package, doubt they need to eat salary.
     
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    Well Eric's a FA so he wouldn't be in a package, but you're right they probably wouldn't need to eat any of Marc's salary.
     
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    I know that 71...I mean a Staal Cane's package all playing together in Carolina. Not a trade package with Eric.

    Point is if Eric wants to go back, and Jordan is there, and Marc agrees to waive his NTC and go there as well, I doubt we have to eat salary to do it.
     
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    Stamkos is exactly the kind of high end player in his prime that this team has lacked for 20 years. I'd love to see it happen but they would have to trade Nash which is do able with only 2 years left on his deal
     
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  18. Ranger71

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    :) I figured you knew that.
     
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    chuckd3534 Well-Known Member

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    Agreed. If Stamkos comes I think Nash, and his 7.8 mill cap hit, has to go. I agree Dis.
     
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    But again...I'll be a broken record...I think it all has to start with moving Staal or G (both is dreamland...:)). That should be the first order of business IMO. Then look at Nash and Stamkos and others.
     

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