Official off-season thread

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  1. Messiah717

    Messiah717 Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    Yup, if you can't move Girardi or Staal you can forget trying to sign Stamkos or anyone else on that level.
     
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    Stepupstepan Well-Known Member

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    Moving Nash and either one of the pythons should be a priority. Thats for sure.
     
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  3. Messiah717

    Messiah717 Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    Pylon but I got you. Now I'm reminded of Rich Pilon.
     
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    Stepupstepan Well-Known Member

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    LOL...Rich Pilon. Is that the former islander who played for the rangers briefly?
     
  5. Messiah717

    Messiah717 Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    ha ha yeah. I think 2000-2002 in those years we want to forget. During those years the Rangers were collecting former Islanders and Devils.
     
  6. Ranger71

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    Probably need to lose Girardi or Staal just to make Yandle work. Hope Gorton takes his magic classes this summer.
     
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    strudwickisthebest Well-Known Member

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    The focus needs to be on Stamkos
     
  8. kreidertime

    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    They need to get younger, cheaper and have a roster of hungry players. They have a bunch of fat, overpaid, lazy tools on the team now.
     
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    strudwickisthebest Well-Known Member

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    Yea fuck it, blow up the whole fuckin team
     
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    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    I'm up for that. I think Hank is pretty much hinting at that.
     
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    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    Nash I believe they can trade for a return similar to what E. Staal got from us in a moronic deal. Maybe a late first. Girardi is a candidate for a buyout to help sign Yandle if they wish. I would not. Not with Skjei here. Staal and McDonagh. Graves a year a way. No thanks. If they can dump Nash for picks and prospects they can free up about 26 million. That's assuming they dump Glass which I believe they will be able to. Dallas still wants him and it's the last year of his contract. There are potentially some big free agents this year. Hayes I'm absolutely dealing. Don't let the door hit you on the way out. His return should be good. Miller gets a 1 million dollar raise. McIlrath 500,000 raise. Kreider 1 million raise and that is it. He's lucky to get that. So you basically have about 24.5 million free. On Nash trade list are Rangers, Flyers, Sharks, Detroit and Penguins. Maybe the Hurricanes. Of that list I only see Detroit has having the cap room if Datsyuk retires which I think he will. Detroit is not going to be attractive to free agents in their current state. I could see a deal there.

    Nash gone 7.8
    Hayes gone 3.75
    Moore gone 1.5
    Glass gone 1.1
    Stalberg gone 1.1
    Girardi bought out saves 3.75 first year
    Boyle gone 4.5
    Yandle gone 2.6
     
  12. mrmel29

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    I don't see any moves until they either fire AV or decide to bring him back(I hope not). If they bring him back they would not sign Yandle (for what reason he doesn't use him), they would trade Big Mac (when you play Boyle and girardi all season over him and someone like fucking diaz who sucks who didn't play in the nhl all year in game 5 of the playoffs over him to use on the pp point when dylan never got that opportunity and has a better shot imo and girardi and staal would still be playing 25 minutes a game and glass would still be playing every game rendering the 4th line useless. For these reasons alone they need to fire AV. Not to mention the exit interview where Hank will surely bury the shit out of him and maybe even demand a trade if AV is still gonna be here as he will not be able to survive 40 shots a night every game most coming from point blank range because AV doesn't give a flying shit about defense. I hope he's gone and they go back to Mess and give him the job this time. But until AV's fate is decided one way or the other no moves can be contemplated.
     
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    1. Hard to fire AV after one early exit. I can go either way on him, and I can see him getting fired, but I will say he stays unless the players bury him in their exit interviews. If he goes I wouldn't be upset, but I just don't see it happening.

    2. AGAIN...unless Staal is moved I don't see how you bring Yandle back. You need cap balance, and you cannot be paying your 3rd pair LD 5.7 mill per or more. And that would also mean McD or Skjei has to play RD permanently. That is not about AV, that is about cap balance and team makeup. Staal or Yandle...cannot be both IMO.

    3. I think McIlrath is back and gets a regular spot on D next season. Looking forward to seeing how he plays.
     
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    A buyout of Girardi's contract would have the following cap hits (Cap Friendly):
    • 16-17: $1.75 million
    • 17-18: $2.75 million
    • 18-19: $3.75 million
    • 19-20: $3.75 million
    • 20-21: $1.25 million
    • 21-22: $1.25 million
    • 22-23: $1.25 million
    • 23-24: $1.25 million
     
  15. Ranger71

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    That's pretty much the only option, since his contract is virtually untradeable unless you threw in a top prospect or ate 44% of his salary. Those cap hits aren't all that bad, especially the first 2y when you're still dealing Nash on the books most likely.
     
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    Its amazing how far both Staal and Girardi have fallen roughly 15 and 26 months after signing 6year extensions.

    I think they will trade Staal at the draft, buy out Girardi and re-sign Yandle before July 1
     
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    I sure hope they can bring Yandle back too, he's an integral piece to any roster and something they don't have in McD or even Skjei who should be a good puck mover.
     
  18. Messiah717

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    Yandle was an integral piece of a lot of the goals the Rangers gave up. The guy is absolutely brutal in his own end.
     
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    This is a gross exaggeration in my opinion. I'm not saying he's great, no doubt he's had some bad blunders. But more often than not, he is serviceable. His gaffes are more noticeable than others because he holds the puck longer trying to make plays. He is not usually out of position or beaten man-to-man; his shortcomings come from trying to generate offense. And we havent had offensive talent like his on the back end since pre-05 lockout.

    Show me an offensive defenseman putting up 47 points who doesnt look like a fool sometimes in his own end, and I'll show you a unanimous Norris winner. In my opinion the good far outweighs the bad with Yandle. High risk/high reward player who brings something this team has lacked for over a decade. Find a way to keep him.

    Obviously one game does not make/break a player, but good examples of him very much holding his own defensively:

     
  20. cagedlion

    cagedlion "I am the problem, and I am the solution."

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    Until & unless Girardi gets completely healthy, I would not want him on the roster.
    And if he's getting reconstructive knee
    surgery, he's finished.( I am sure his
    knees are shot).
     

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