OT NBA Finally Ready To Make Rule Change On Hack-A-Player

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  1. H.C.

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    It's funny to me when people delete 90% of your post. Only to attempt to pick apart what was said. BUT ANYWAY, I'll play along.


    99% of the time free throws have nothing to do with hack-a-wilt chamberlain huh?
    Then the rule doesn't need to be changed, thanks for making my point.

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    Hello darkness, my old friend
    I quoted the part of your post I was responding to. I didn't selectively edit it to change what you were saying.

    It'll still be a good change, if they do it, IMO. It just won't make free throws meaningless, as you alleged.
     
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    The defense can't force a bad free throw shooter to hurt his team. The team with the horrible free throw shooter has the choice and freedom to not have that player in the game. Problem solved.
     
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    In my opinion, if the goal is to have less free throw shooting in a game, change the rules for that reason, not because teams are intentionally fouling bad free throw shooters. This rule change comes across as protecting certain players and doesn't equally affect all teams. It will positively affect a few select teams.

    I wouldn't be against the NBA trying to reduce fouls and improve game flow, but I am against catering to a few players and teams that can't shoot free throws.
     
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    The goal is not to have fewer free throws; the goal is to have fewer instances of undesirable contact. That is accomplished by creating a disincentive thereto. Simply calling fewer fouls will result in more contact, and uglier basketball. Allowing teams to decline free throws on off-ball fouls will result in less contact, and better basketball.

    Pretty simple.
     
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    You definitely beat the crap out of that strawman you built. Congrats!
     
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    Please elaborate. I was actually redirecting away from your "if the goal is to have fewer free throws" strawman, and back to the original topic of preventing the intentional off-ball foul.
     
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    I said I would support rule changes to improve the flow of the game, and fewer free throws (ie fewer fouls). I don't support a rule change this is specifically targeted to protect and help a select few players and teams.
     
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    This particular rule change would, in fact, improve the flow of some games. Why is the fact that it wouldn't necessarily impact all games a bad thing? Are rule changes only of value if they impact all teams equally? Was the shot clock a bad idea because only done teams were running four corners ball stopping offense?
     
    PtldPlatypus, Apr 25, 2016
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    10 years ago, the League Office considered this change because Shaq played in Los Angeles. Now, the League Office is reconsidering this change because DeAndre Jordan plays in Los Angeles. I guarantee that the league would never consider this change because of a Blazer player.
     
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    Yes, I'm sure Adam Silver stays up nights plotting how to protect face of the league DeAndre Jordan.
     
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    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    So the concept is all new to you...that Los Angeles is the 2nd-biggest market, where half the referees live, one of 2 major media centers in the country, etc.

    This must be your first week as an NBA fan. Yes, Silver considers the good of Clipper players ahead of that of other players.
     
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    Third-best player on the second-most important team in the second-biggest market....that's where Silver's focus is. Makes sense.

    This is my first day, yes. Tell me more.
     
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    Anyway, if he went to the line fewer times we would be deprived of the spectacle of "Airball Jordan" and his foul shooting!
     
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    Shielding players who can't shoot free throws will do to the league what Affirmative Action hires have done to the Federal government.

    One-trick ponies like Jordan and Howard are embarrassing and f'ing boring to watch. Any tall person can dunk or block a shot.

    I am of the opinion that if you can't average at least 50% of your free throws you should be automatically removed from the game by the refs in every game at crunch time. Better yet, banned from all 2nd and 4th quarters entirely.

    This would save the player and his inept coaching staff from public embarrassment, increase fan viewership, and keep games exciting to watch.

    Stiffs who can't make uncontested shots shouldn't even be in a league people pay to watch.
     
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    1st best player if he's shielded from his horrific shooting inabilities.

    Kaman can't shoot longballs very well, so Silver should make a rule nobody can guard him above the key.
     
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    What exactly do you mean by this?
     
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    What is the difference between shielding bad free throw shooters, and discriminating against all the other players?
     
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