Politics Enough with the Hillary cult: Her admirers ignore reality, dream of worshipping a queen

And yet you support a guy who does not tell the truth about much of anything. How do you reconcile that?

barfo

 

It's not, actually, the government throws away, shreds, and deletes tons of stuff every day. Plus there is no evidence that she did that anyway (possibly because she destroyed the evidence?).

barfo

 

Here's a couple that I would say certainly qualify:

Claim: During Thursday evening’s Fox News Republican presidential debate, Trump said families of the Sept. 11, 2001, hijackers had been living in the U.S. prior to that date. “The wife knew exactly what was happening. They left two days early … and they watched their husband on television flying into the World Trade Center, flying into the Pentagon."

Fact: No relatives of 9/11 hijackers had been living in the U.S. prior to the attacks.

Claim: In October, Trump claimed that on 9/11, “there were people that were cheering on the other side of New Jersey, where you have large Arab populations. They were cheering as the World Trade Center came down.”

Fact: Not only was it not "well-covered," as Trump claimed during an interview, but Trump's campaign has been unable to provide evidence that any groups of Muslims were celebrating the attacks in New Jersey.

barfo

 

The fact that no one can find the videos does actually mean it never happened. Yet Trump claimed he watched it on TV. Maybe you think there is a giant conspiracy to erase every tape ever made of coverage that day? Wouldn't there then be gaps in the coverage that couldn't be explained?

As for the relatives, I believe that's been investigated pretty thoroughly. Maybe the government is lying to us about the relatives of the hijackers leaving the country, but please explain why they'd bother?

I only picked these two because they dealt with terrorism. There are lots of other lies Trump tells on a daily basis.

barfo

 

No, it was not illegal for him to say that. MarAzul complained specifically about lies, not illegality, however, so I was addressing Trump's lies.

If you want to discuss Trump's illegal acts instead, I suppose I could bring up the Trump University fraud...

barfo

 

Uh, no. There's no congressional committee asking me for my emails.

 

There were arabs around the world who did celebrate on 9/11. Whether it happened in NJ or not.

 

You missed the point. The congressional committee had not yet asked her for her emails when she deleted them.

Now, you can claim she guessed that they would subpoena her, and that she deleted them because of that expectation - and that might or might not be true, but we'll never know.

And it's pretty hard to get an indictment based on 'maybe, there's no way of ever knowing'. The courts require more proof than Denny Crane's suppositions.

barfo

 

Ha ha. Yes, there were people around the world who did celebrate on 9/11. How is that even remotely relevant?

Are you saying Donald Trump doesn't know the difference between New Jersey and Pakistan?

barfo

 

Well, you and the Donald share the same false memories, I guess?

So you admit the Donald was lying when he said he did know?

Sure, the mass exodus after the attacks makes perfect sense. Imagine that you were in some foreign country and the US, or some US citizens, suddenly killed 3000 locals. Wouldn't you want to get the hell out?

barfo

 

No. I saw on TV scenes similar to what he described. I don't see why that's funny.

I don't think highly of Trump or his supporters, really. The man is a birther, and that's just for starters.

 

Pesky little things those facts are...

You missed the point. Yes they had. Since you like large fonts:

https://sharylattkisson.com/hillary-clintons-email-the-definitive-timeline/

2012
Sept. 11: Islamic extremists launch the terrorist attacks on U.S. compounds in Benghazi, Libya, killing Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans.

October: Clinton convenes Accountability Review Board (ARB) to investigate State Dept. actions surrounding Benghazi.

After the ARB and Congress call for Benghazi-related documents, top Clinton aides Cheryl Mills and Jake Sullivan are allegedly present at a document sorting session in the basement of the State Dept., according to Deputy Assistant Secretary Raymond Maxwell, who later told me he witnessed the operation. No law enforcement body contacted or interviewed Maxwell.

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Nov. 7: Judicial Watch files Freedom of Information (FOI) Act request with State Dept. for Benghazi-related emails and other information.

December: I (then at CBS News) file a Freedom of Information Act request with the State Dept. for Benghazi-related emails and other information.

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2013

Feb. 25: Judicial Watch files two lawsuits against State Dept. for failing to lawfully respond to FOI requests.

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2014

June 13: Judicial Watch files a FOI request with State Dept. seeking Benghazi information and Clinton notes.

August: State Dept. provides House Benghazi Committee with eight emails to or from Clinton that, for the first time, show her use of a private email account.

Sept. 4: Judicial Watch sues State Dept. for failure to respond to a June 13, 2014 FOI request seeking Benghazi records and Clinton notes.

Sept. 17: House Benghazi Committee holds its first public hearing. Topic: implementation of ARB recommendations.

October: State Dept. sends letters to Clinton and her three predecessors as secretary of state seeking work emails related to personal accounts.

Nov. 18: House Benghazi Committee makes additional request for Clinton emails from State Dept.

Nov. 26: President Obama signs into law an updated Federal Records Act requiring public officials to forward all work-related email to their government address.

December: House Benghazi Committee sends request to the White House for documents and communications pertaining to Benghazi.

Dec. 5: Clinton privately turns over copies of 30,490 “work-related” emails to the State Dept. totaling 55,000 printed pages. No date has been provided as to when she deleted her “private” emails, but it is presumed to be around this time frame.

 

Hiliar and her selected, printed out emails: