[ official ] 2016 summer moves

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  1. BlazerCaravan

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    You know, the more you look at Neil's attempted moves last summer, the more you see how the team would have been hand-built to beat Golden State. The scoring center we don't yet have but almost got twice, completely regardless of defensive ability, was a move to make Bogut work and prevent Draymond from sagging back to guard the lane.

    If Neil had confidence in our guards versus the Splash Bros (and the proof has shown that he should have had that confidence), in retrospect, the moves all point to shoring up the front line with replacements for Batum in Batum-like role, hustle guys like Vonleh and Harkless in the PF spot, and a center that could score. That was the piece we struck out on.

    Of course, Curry going SuperHAM on the league couldn't have been predicted, and we still might be down 1-3 now, but I think we'd be up 3-1 if we had Kanter or Monroe.
     
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  2. illmatic99

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    For you guys calculating cap numbers, did you consider Dame's ~5 mil bonus/yr if/when he makes an All NBA team?
     
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  3. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Year No Rose Rose
    2016-17 $20,947,250 $23,041,975
    2017-18 $22,518,294 $24,770,123
    2018-19 $24,207,166 $26,627,882
    2019-20 $26,022,703 $28,624,974
    2020-21 $27,974,406 $30,771,847
    Total $121,669,819 $133,836,801


    It's ~ 2million. Problematic, but not insurmountable with a few saavy moves.

    http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/7/1/8877139/damian-lillard-max-contract-kawhi-leonard-explainer

    Also:

    So it's unclear, and the actual amount of Lillard's contract won't be known until the salary cap is finalized. We will have to see.
     
  4. BlazerCaravan

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    Lillard turned down a player option in the fifth year too (which is borderline insane loyalty); I bet that report is true and he turned down any incentives too.
     
  5. illmatic99

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    Gotcha.

    I wonder if it's possible to tack on that extra amount to future years and max our space for this summer. But 2-3 mil does make a pretty big difference. Kinda like the difference between getting Chris Kaman or Ed Davis (not trying to be pedantic... but still).
     
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    It just means that if we want to sign a Horford max, we have to decline one of Meyers or Harkless, which probably would have been done regardless.

    If the Blazers go dumpster diving, it's probably not gonna make a big deal, because the guys we bring in aren't going to use all our capspace.
     
  7. Denny Crane

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    I've pointed out Neil's brilliant cap moves each time.

    When we got Hendo, it was an expiring deal. $6M of cap space this summer, if we renounce him.
     
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    Sign Durant or Lebron, simple.
     
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    evil theory:
    OKC signs Durant to supermax, gets into luxury tax area.
    Neil says....

    We'll take Kanter off your hands.... if you give us a 1st rounder :)
     
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    Dame is a better compliment to KD than Westbrook. CJ is a big upgrade over Roberson. Our bench is a LOT better. They have the advantage with Ibaka but the advantages Kanter has offensively over Plumlee is negated by his defensive problems.
     
  11. Chris Craig

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    I know in all odds, Durant will not be a Blazer, I just hope he stays there in OKC or goes somewhere besides GS

    I think Neil will go after Horford and Whiteside out of the gates...
     
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    I know people aren't going to like this (I don't even like thinking it) but I believe our best chance of getting to the WCF in the future is due to internal growth (ie, our current players all improving). It might be a little depressing but I don't see us getting a guy who is an All-Star this off-season.

    Monroe for peanuts in a trade is probably the best chance we have and the guy has never been a true star. Kanter (even though most people hated it at the time) would have been a great get for us.

    Now that isn't to say we can't (or won't) be better in the future. I think it is going to take trades though to get there. Someone besides Dame or CJ needs to improve a lot (or show a lot of promise) so we can flip that person for a true difference-maker down the line. Most likely this person would be Vonleh. And maybe at the point we will just want to keep him though.

    P.S. Still think we will be very good team in two seasons regardless!
     
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    I agree with this for the most part...Neil may go after a big name or a couple of guys we arent really even thinking about on here, but by the end of the summer, the team will be mostly the guys we have now...it takes time for players to colesce, to become their best selfs
    ...I like that the chemistry is already there, the will and desire to win is there...the Blazers are going to come into next season with a chip on their shoulder...and destroy
     
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    Does Larry Sanders have any interest in coming back? Man, his defensive numbers are just off the charts. Would be an amazing story if we could revive his interest in basketball.
     
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    Thanks for asking. I like that he was a top level HS player, and really good College player from a good program (UNC). I like that he has prototypical size for SF. I like that he is an above average shooter, maybe even elite. I like that he can post up people of equal or lesser size than him. He's physical and athletic and plays pretty long.

    I think/guess that he is UNDER utilized playing for GSW. He doesn't get enough opportunities to score in that system, but when he is called upon....he seems to come through. I also think/guess that he might be a player who could have tremendous UPSIDE (think Wes Matthews) once given more of a role or chance to produce with a team like Blazers. I believe he would be an upgrade over our current tandem of SF's and would prefer him taking all of those 3's that Aminu gets regularly.
     
  20. Chris Craig

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    He is RFA GS will resign him
     

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