Trade Would you trade CJ... The Super Duper Trade Thread!

What part of "NO" don't you understand?

 

I find it highly doubtful that the Sixers part ways with a player on Noel's ability.
If you've watched him at all. You quickly see he has rare lateral quickness for a big. Noel is one of the better young defensive bigs in the NBA.
Not to mention that if indeed what was coming out of the Philly's organizations mouth is to be believed.
They have visions of Noel and Embiid being their bigs of the future.
Okafor doesn't seem to really be in their plan. But Noel most certainly is.
Where the #1 pick/Saric fit into their plans has yet to be seen.

 

Someone that's looking to rebuild and shed salary. Someone that's worried about losing a free agent without compensation.

Not sure where LaMarcus fits in the star/superstar continuum, but at one point, it was rumored we could have gotten Klay Thompson for him. That was back when Klay was averaging 18.4 ppg on a 47-win lower playoff seed and Aldridge was a proven all star big man. GSW supposedly wanted us to also absorb David Lee's contract to get the salaries to match.

It's certainly not unheard of for a team to unload a proven player for youth, especially if they are blowing it up and rebuilding. We have the cap space to absorb a big contract in a lopsided trade. I've mentioned it in other threads, but if ATL loses Horford for nothing, they may look to blow it up and trade Paul Millsap. Perhaps not a superstar, but Millsap is an all star and and one of the best defenders in the league. I'd love to add Millsap (or Horford), while keeping C.J., but depending on the other pieces involved, I'd at least consider a C.J. for Millsap trade.

BNM

 

Best part? He pulls that move in the NBA against NBA players. His game translates!

 

Not at this point. We KNOW C.J, works in Stotts' system. We don't know if Wiggins will. Stotts seems to be good at getting the most out of his players, so I'd at least consider it, but I have to see more improvement from Wiggins. C.J. showed huge improvement last year, while Wiggins improvement was much less impressive. Of course, Wiggins is younger, so I'd at least consider it, but I'd lean heavily on Terry in making any decision. How would Wiggins work in his plans, does he see Wiggins possessing the basic skills to take his game to the next level, etc.

BNM

 

I like Milsap a lot but that guy is getting up there in age. That other piece(s) you mention would have to be Schroder for me to even consider it. The Hawks don't have much in moveable pieces though otherwise.

 

Agreed, Davis is the kind of two-way big man that would REALLY help this team. But, NOP has already signed Davis to a max extension. So, they don't have to worry about losing him to free agency for the next 5 years. So, I don't see them trading him any time soon. They will continue to build around him for the next 3 or 4 years, and will only consider trading him if they don't make any significant forward progress in that time.

BNM

 

Couldn't have put it better myself.

 

My preference, by far, is to ADD Millsap to our current roster without giving up Dame or C.J., but I'm not sure that's possible. I like Schroder, but he'd be a career back up here and I don't think he'd like that. I also like Kent Bazemore, but he'd just get in the way of Harkless' development. So, maybe it would have to be a multi-team trade.

BNM

 

“IF” the Blazers got lucky enough to pick a player in this draft that would eventually become slightly better than CJ. It will take 2-3 years for the new player to get to CJ’s level.

In other words, we would be a worse team next season, and the next, and maybe the next. We would not be a threat in the playoffs without CJ, if we even make the playoffs.

See the results of Minny’s plan of trading Love for unproven talent.

 

If I'm Atlanta, I would probably start a new growth cycle. I would first give Horford all of the info pertaining to that: let him know that a rebuild is going to happen and seeing if he is on board with that. That is mainly to increase good will with free agents and agents in the future. After that conversation, you let Horford sign with a contender. I would then try to trade Teague and get into a higher draft slot (I'm pretty sure Utah would be more than interested). I would then try to get Boston to bite on Millsap and change for their pick and possibly Bradley. Speaking of playoff purgatory, the Hawks are it's embodiment. This would clean the slate and allow for a new future.


Ps. I want Millsap in a big way.

 

I'd take Ingram over Simmons 100 times out of 100.

 

Not to mention Bazemore is a free agent so if you like him we could just sign him instead. It would definitely have to be a 3 team deal.

 

MIN dropped from 40 wins to 15 after trading Love. Our drop off wouldn't be that dramatic as we'd still have Dame, but I bet we'd miss the playoffs in the West next year, which would make some people happy as they seem to value getting another crap shoot with the 14th pick over actually watching their team in the playoffs.

BNM

 

For some reason the OP was mostly limiting this to Simmons being there at 2 instead of Ingram.

I agree that Ingram is likely to be the better plays so if he was there at 2 that would be better (in this hypothetical trade). But even Ingram isn't a "definitely going to be a star" player I would bet. He sure could of course but just as likely to not be as I see it.

 

Remember that the Blazers should never - NEVER - trade for a player that relies on free throw attempts to be successful. Because we aren't getting them.

 

I like him, but I don't see how he'd fit with our current roster. He duplicates too much of what we already have with Aminu and Harkless.

BNM

 

Best reason not to get DeRozan right there! Not that I really needed another reason.

 

I think that this trade is very possible:
Teague and 21 to Utah for Rodney Hood and 12

I think SAC will come knocking:
Millsap to Sacramento for 8, Willie Cauley-Stein, Ben McLemore, and a future 1st

Trade 8 and 28 to PHX for #4

Add Rodney Hood, Cauley-Stein, McLemore, and have the 4th and 12th picks. Take Brown and Chriss

Schroeder / Hood / Brown / Chriss / WCS

 

If we didn't resign Crabbe or Harkless then MAYBE.... But I agree overall.