That's a pretty damning indictment. I so wanted Cliff Alexander to be good, but I think he just doesn't have it between the ears.
Bigs take the longest to develop but Cliff needs a good bigman coach - like a Danny Manning. He's a physical oddity with mobility - 6'8" with a 9'2" reach is crazy. Not comparing the two but Ben Wallace had the same freakish height and reach ratio.
I like the thought of picking up 2 second rounders. Maker has the highest celing & I like the NM State kid (Skisiam?) as possible big targets in the 2nd. I thing GPii would mesh very well with Dame & CJ - so im sold on him too.
Pascal Siakim http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Pascal-Siakam-87577/ A 6'10", 227 lb PF with a 7'3.25" wingspan averaging 20+ points and almost 12 rebounds along with 2.2 blocks.
For my own amusement, I went back over the past few drafts and here's a list of the best 2nd rounders: 2008 31 Minnesota Nikola Pekovic Serbia - C 34 Minnesota Mario Chalmers Kanses - PG 35 Clippers DeAndre Jordan Texas A&M - C 36 Portland Omer Asik Turkey - C 45 San Antonio Goran Dragic Slovenia - PG 2009 33. Trail Blazers Dante Cunningham PF 39. Pistons Jonas Jerebko SF 41. Bucks Jodie Meeks SG 42. Lakers Patrick Beverley PG 46. Cavaliers Danny Green SF 2010 33 Sacramento Kings Hassan Whiteside C, 7-0, 235 Marshall 40 Indiana Pacers Lance Stephenson G, 6-5, 225 Cincinnati 55 Utah Jazz Jeremy Evans F, 6-9, 190 Western Kentucky 2011 38. Rockets Chandler Parsons SF 40. Bucks Jon Leuer PF 60. Kings Isaiah Thomas PG 2012 34. Cavaliers Jae Crowder SF 35. Warriors Draymond Green SF 37. Raptors Quincy Acy SF 39. Pistons Khris Middleton SF 40. Trail Blazers Will Barton SG 2013 31. Cavaliers Allen Crabbe SG 47. Hawks Raul Neto PG 55. Grizzlies Joffrey Lauvergne PF 2014 32. 76ers K.J. McDaniels SF 38. Pistons Spencer Dinwiddie PG 39. 76ers Jerami Grant SF 41. Nuggets Nikola Jokic PF 2015 37. 76ers Richaun Holmes PF 40. Heat Josh Richardson SG 46. Bucks Norman Powell SG It seems like the pickings have been getting slimmer, but of course, for the most recent drafts, some of them haven't had a chance yet (particularly the draft'n'stash ones). All-star team from those listed: 33. Hassan Whiteside (2010) 34. Jae Crowder (2012) 35. Draymond Green (2012) 35. DeAndre Jordan (2008) 38. Chandler Parsons (2011) 39. Khris Middleton (2012) 41. Nikola Jokic (2014) 45. Goran Dragic (2008) 46. Danny Green (2009) 60. Isaiah Thomas (2011)
Looking specifically at seniors, AJ Hammons (who has been mentioned in this thread) definitely intrigues me. Jake Layman seems to be a fascinating combination of jump-shooting, defense, and athleticism. Dorian Finney-Smith may just be a workout wonder, but he's definitely worth a look.
I just don't see how Alexander fits in. If we want a role player who can come in and protect the rim and grab rebounds, then he has got to be bigger than Alexander (and Davis). Alexander would have to be a lights out shooter from either mid-range or 3 points to make himself valuable.
Probably not, but about as much as I'd seen of T-Rob to form the same assessment. Stay away from Kansas grads!
That was just because we had no bench. Now we do. TRob would get very little if any playing time on this roster I think.
That's not what was debated. We're talking about how much we see of them. The situations dictated it, but you can't make an accurate assumption either way on someone you've barely seen. That's the debate.
Ahh , I missed that. Thought I was being a sniper, with a quick hit and out again. Yeah, No way to judge Alexander unless your part of the organization with ins to practices.
I think if Alexander were very good even in just one area....like being a dominant rebounder, he would have seen time. Nothing wrong with a Rodman-type player who doesn't do much else if they dominant in one area.
Alexander wore a suit all season...he's really, really young...I look at him like a Will Barton his rookie year. His wingspan is off the charts for a Kurt Thomas sort of big but he's strong, not easy to move. Vonleh is just more skilled..he couldn't beat out Vonleh for PF minutes his rookie year. Hey Rasta!!! What's up with our Euro stashed player Daniel Diez? He any good?
I don't think you can put together a better 5 man group from any 2nd round in general, and those 5 guys went over the course of 7 picks.. That draft was one of the most even drafts ever. You had Fournier and Sullinger in the 20s, Ezeli went 30th. There were those 5 then Mike Scott went in the mid 40s. Kent Bazemore went undrafted.
