Totally spaced on Butler - one of the few guys I've considered as a good CJ trade target. Ellis (blech, not quite as old as dirt but getting close) Terry (bench player, old as dirt...and does he even create for himself anymore? seems like he's almost entirely a spot-up shooter) Evans (never liked the guy, best suited to a bench role)
This is going to be painful to say. BUT. Crabbe can NOT create his own shot. Nor does he create shot opportunities for others (not a playmaker like CJ). He ranks near the bottom for both SGs & SFs for Defensive real plus/minus. He does not draw fouls, but commits many unnecessary ones. Crabbe is a one trick pony; he can shoot from long range. He is not a starting caliber player for a playoff team. I would like to re-sign Crabbe, if the price is right. However, I doubt he will be a Blazer next season due to some GM overpaying him. Trading CJ for Okafor creates a much bigger problem @ SG then it solves @ C.
Stopped reading when you said that. http://www.basketball-reference.com...edicjj01&y2=2016&p2=crabbal01&p3=&p4=&p5=&p6= ^ Redick vs Crabbe
Hmmmm, while I agree he doesn't create shots for others I remember many occasions where he shot off the dribble - and he usually canned the shots.
Not sure what your point is? I would pick JJ Redick over Crabbe everyday. Not only is JJ much better 3 pt shooter, but Crabbe will cost twice as much, or more, next season than JJ will.
You make a valid point, but you also miss my point. Crabbe’s “potential” is going to be sold at a very high blue sky price. And I will be happy for his big payday. If the price is right, I would keep Crabbe, and give him more development time. At this time he is a nice spark off of the bench. But, it is more realistic that a lottery team offers Crabbe a big contract and a starting position. The Kings are the first team to come mind. So I doubt he will be a Blazer next season. Crabbe is going to get overpaid = bad contract.
Crabbe is nice bench player but that's it. I don't understand why any Blazer fan that watch the Blazers play last season thinks that Crabbe could in any way/shape/form replace CJ. He'd be one of the worst starting SGs in the league.
Because Crabbe is a poor 3point shooter? lol. People consider JJ a quality starting guard in the league. Crabbe's numbers are fairly comparable to his. Therefore Crabbe is a quality starting 2 in the league. I thought this point was obvious ~ JJ shoots a tad better from 3, Crabbe is a better defender... By a lot. How often does JJ defend the teams best wing? How often does Crabbe defend the teams best wing? Numbers don't include who you're guarding.
JJ is a much better 3 pt shooter, by a lot. JJ has a much higher BBIQ than Crabbe. You are overrating Crabbe’s defense, and underrating JJs. The correct point here for you to have made is Crabbe’s defense is slowing improving. But it has been so bad for his wingspan @ SG that he has nowhere to go but up. JJ’s defense has peaked, and probably will start to decline in the near future. Crabbe is not a starting caliber player, let alone a quality starter.
Not. CJ is a better player than Okafor right now. If they really want CJ they'd need to add something to the pot.
One player shot 40% from three in the Blazers offense. One player shot 47% from three in the Clippers offense. Not that much of a difference considering offenses and the looks JJ gets due to the different offenses... I'm not underrating, or overrating anyone. I'm stating fact. JJ is hidden in their defense due to CP3/Luc Mbah Moute/DJ. If someone can't see how playing with those three players doesn't help JJ defensively then... JJ outside of his worse defensive season, JJ has always played with an elite shot blocker.(when Orlando lost Howard he had his worst defensive season) JJ on defense is always defending the worse offensive player. Similar to what the Suns did with Nash. Crabbe is never hidden defensively like JJ is. Nor does he get the room to shoot JJ does by big screeners.(Howard/Davis/Griffin/DJ to name a few.) JJ can shoot and no one is underselling it. But to say he's a much better shooter than someone who shot 40% from deep this year is kinda silly. However to even think JJ is even on the same level as Crabbe defensively is insane. CJ is not worth Okafor + #1 pick. He's a borderline All-Star, but he wouldn't get a Superstar's value. I doubt he's even worth what the Wolves got from the Cavs.
So now I am insane? Possible, until now, I have only been a dyslectic idiot savant with Alzheimer’s. Hard for me to believe Crabbe is now a starting caliber player. Let alone a quality starter. I realize the talent level in the NBA has been diluted. But by that much?
Kanter. Monroe. Neil is looking for a low-post scorer. Okafor would be too expensive. You want to add talent *with* Dame and CJ. If you can get past his foot/knee issues Zubac would be a cheaper alternative. He's basically the Croatian Al Jefferson.
47% is absolutely much better than 40%, and I'd bet that Reddick took and made more contested threes than Crabbe too. And Crabbe really is only slightly better at defense than Reddick. Crabbe is not close to being an elite defender at all. Edit: If you round their percentages correctly, it's actually 39% and 48%. How you can say that's not a big difference is beyond me. Is Crabbe only a slightly better three point shooter than Harkless?
The moment when a proper response = quoting the previous post you wrote and posting it again. You're ignoring facts because they don't fit into your box. Sorry but I'm taking everything into consideration. Have a nice day. In 2010 Steve Nash shut down the prolific scorer Nicolas Batum in the playoffs. Holding him well below his regular season scoring average of 10.1ppg. To only allowing 8.2ppg out of the prolific scorer. How Nash didn't even make first team all defense this year. He proved it was a huge snub in the playoffs against Batum. Yes the shooting guard or off guard talent level has been diluted that much. For example Jalen Rose would prolly be a fringe all-star if he played today. Not a fringe starter like he was for most of his career. Oh, heres one that would have a hard time starting in yesterday's NBA but he got a max deal this off season. Wesley Matthews signed a 4 year / $70,060,026 contract with the Dallas Mavericks, including $70,060,026 guaranteed, and an annual average salary of $17,515,007. Gerald Henderson started for how many years, and when he came to portland.. The thought process was, who would start. Hendo or CJ? The 2 guard position is greatly diluted. Allen Crabbe in his first real NBA season, showed he deserves more PT and you could do worse than Crabbe as a starter.
