Rank the Roster

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  1. Rastapopoulos

    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

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    How about this: list the current roster in descending order (starting, presumably, with Lillard) with the following break lines.
    Start with the untouchables, then a line below which everyone is
    "preferably keep, but trade for a very good player"
    Then a line below which everyone is
    "Don't care"
    Then a line below which are players who
    "Must never besmirch a Blazers uni again!"
     
  2. Rastapopoulos

    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

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    Here's the roster:
    Alexander, Cliff PF
    Aminu, Al-farouq SF
    Connaughton, Pat SG
    Crabbe, Allen SG
    Davis, Ed PF
    Harkless, Maurice SF
    Henderson, Gerald SG
    Kaman, Chris C
    Leonard, Meyers C
    Lillard, Damian PG
    Montero, Luis SG
    McCollum,C.J. SG
    Plumlee, Mason PF
    Roberts, Brian PG
    Vonleh, Noah PF
     
  3. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    I reject your classifications and therefore refuse to participate.
     
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  4. Rastapopoulos

    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

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    Here's mine:
    The Core:
    1. Lillard, Damian PG

    Would Trade/not resign but happy to keep:
    2. McCollum,C.J. SG
    3. Plumlee, Mason PF
    4. Aminu, Al-farouq SF
    5. Davis, Ed PF
    6. Harkless, Maurice SF

    Won't really miss them if they go:
    7. Crabbe, Allen SG (he's borderline. Looked great in the Summer, and if he got back to that he'd be bumped up.)
    8. Montero, Luis SG (probably never amount to jack but he intrigues me, especially if he can show PG skills and improved defense)

    15=
    Alexander, Cliff PF (he can at least block shots and rebound)
    Leonard, Meyers C
    Vonleh, Noah PF
    Connaughton, Pat SG
    Henderson, Gerald SG
    Roberts, Brian PG
    Kaman, Chris C

    There's nobody I hate, even Meyers.

    The more I look at that roster,
    (a) the more respect I have for Stotts
    (b) the more I realize how much of a red flag it was for them that we played Golden State remotely close.
     
  5. Rastapopoulos

    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for taking the time to post that.
     
  6. BlazerCaravan

    BlazerCaravan Hug a Bigot... to Death

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    Untouchables:
    Damian Lillard (PG)
    CJ McCollum (SG)
    Ed Davis (PF/C) - when you get a Brian Grant on your team, you keep him

    Prefer to Keep:
    Mason Plumless (C)
    Maurice Harkless (SF)
    Al-Farouq Aminu (PF)
    Meyers Leonard (C)
    Allen Crabbe (SF)

    Neither Here Nor There:
    Noah Vonleh (PF)
    Brian Roberts (PG)
    Gerald Henderson (SG)
    Luis Montero (SG)
    Pat Connaughton (SG)
    Cliff Alexander (PF)

    Please Stop Playing For Us:
    Chris Kaman (C) - just become an assistant coach already, Chris
     
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    UKRAINEFAN Well-Known Member

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    I just rated them straight down the line, with ones I rate about the same next to each other. Leonard and Vonleh are two that I just don't have a strong opinion about who they are or will be.
    Lillard, CJ
    Plumlee
    Aminu, Harkless
    Davis
    Crabbe
    Vonleh, Leonard
    Connaughton
    Montero
    Alexander
    Kaman, Henderson, Roberts: don't expect any of them to be on the team, so haven't rated them.
     
  8. e_blazer

    e_blazer Rip City Fan

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    That pretty much works for me. My only minor quibble is I'd move Vonleh up into the "Prefer to Keep" group for at least another season. I think he's worth another summer and training camp of development to see if he can become a bigger contributor.
     
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    OK I'll play....

    Untouchables: Lillard

    Keepers but willing to trade for the right return: All others.

    Hope to resign and keep: Harkless, Crabbe, Leonard(without breaking bank)

    Promising future: Harkless, Montero, Vonleh
     
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    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    No one is untouchable

    Preferably keep
    Lillard
    McCollum

    Don't care
    Everyone else
     
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    BigGameDamian Well-Known Member

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    If I could boo this post I would.
     
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    You can't talk shit until you actually post your own list @BigGameDamian
     
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    Why?

    I know right? damn, talk about backseat driving....
     
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    Id say the same on BlazerCaravans post. Im feeling the same, except Id prefer to keep Vonleh and Henderson(If the price is right)
     
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    Keep:
    Dame
    CJ
    Harkless

    Hopefully Keep:
    Meyers
    Crabbe

    Open To Trades, But Not Gonna Give 'Em Away:
    Plumlee
    Davis
    Vonleh
    Montero
    Connaughton

    Hope We Trade:
    Aminu
    Alexander
    Roberts

    Probably Won't Be Here:
    Henderson
    Kaman
     
  16. BigGameDamian

    BigGameDamian Well-Known Member

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    Untouchables:
    Damian Lillard*

    Hope to keep but open to trades:
    CJ McCollum
    Ed Davis
    Allen Crabbe
    Meyers Leanard
    Maurice Harkless

    Trade block and dead weight:
    Everyone else

    *Lillard is the only player on the team that should be considered untouchable. As of today he is the only player the Blazers have fully committed to being a core franchise price.
     
  17. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Cliff and Noah seem redundant. Similar size, same position, same age. We saw a LOT of Noah, but almost no Cliff during the regular season. It doesn't really make sense to keep two 20-year old project power forwards. I just hope Neil and company pick the right one (assuming one of them actually amounts to something).

    BNM
     
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  18. SIeepwalker

    SIeepwalker The lone sane poster

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    Untouchable:
    1 - Lillard
    2 - McCollum
    3 - Harkless
    4 - Davis

    Preferably Keep:
    5 - Aminu
    6 - Plumlee
    7 - Crabbe

    Don't Care:
    8 - Hendo
    9 - Vonleh
    10 - Montero
    11 - Roberts
    12 - Kaman
    13 - Alexander
    14 - Connaughton

    Must Go:
    15 - Meyers
     
  19. Wizard Mentor

    Wizard Mentor Wizard Mentor

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    This. almost exactly... and being booed by BGD is a badge of honor. I'd split things up a bit more, though:

    Untouchables:
    Damian Lillard (PG)
    CJ McCollum (SG) (DL would be pissed if we traded CJ).
    Ed Davis (PF/C) - (value to us > value around league, need to be loyal to signed FAs)

    Strongly Prefer to Keep:
    Maurice Harkless (SF) (VERY encouraged by his play)
    Al-Farouq Aminu (PF) (value to us > value around league, need to be loyal to signed FAs)

    Prefer to Keep:
    Mason Plumless (C) (game has multiple holes, but he's still young and a hard worker)
    Allen Crabbe (SF) (wants to start somewhere. We may sign him and trade him later)

    Kinda Prefer to Keep:
    Meyers Leonard (C) (dude still makes horrible decisions and wants to get PAYED, but shooting is highly valued in Stotts offense)
    Brian Roberts (PG) (fits system perfected as a 3rd PG, can really shoot. However, for cap reasons he'll get cut. I'd be interested in re-signing him afterward, though).
    Luis Montero (SG) (has potential, and my guess is he has no value around the league, so I would prefer to keep him).

    Neither Here Nor There:
    Noah Vonleh (PF) (freakin' A, I wish this guy would have put it together. He still has value around the league).
    Gerald Henderson (SG) (cap reasons - he's gone. Wants to start.)
    Pat Connaughton (SG) (I like PC better than most, and I currently see him as meh.)
    Cliff Alexander (PF) (maybe he's a beast in practice? Showed nothing this year, didn't dominate DLeague).

    OK to keep as 15th man:
    Chris Kaman (C) (will get cut. We might resign him afterwards for peanuts, though)


     
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