What the hell is Obama doing in Hiroshima?

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  1. MarAzul

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    They say he did not apologize, but to me, he did indeed, in his back handed way, he implied that the the action was immoral.

    "Obama said there is a "shared responsibility" to look into the "eye of history" and ask what must be done to prevent another nuclear weapon being used.
    He urged that the world make moral progress alongside its remarkable scientific advancements.
    "The scientific revolution that led to the splitting of an atom requires a moral revolution as well," Obama said. "That is why we come to this place."


    What he left unsaid was, it shortened the war and prevented the loss of many more lives.

    The US was assembling an invasion force of around three million men, while the Japanese where digging in, giving no hint to any possible ending to the war other than by shear force.

    The projected loses of US invader ranged from 500,000 men to 1.5 million. The invasion force was expected to be required to kill 3 to 5 million Japanese,
    many crudely armed civilians, while in route to Tokyo.

    Dropping the two bombs averted this horrible massacre, trading a very large massacre for a much smaller pair a tradgedies. One would have been enough if the Russians had notified the US of Japans intentions after the first bomb on Hiroshima. Instead the Russians launched their own invasion of Japan, through Manchuria and Korea and taking the Kurl Island between Japan and the Kamchatka peninsula.

    Obama mentions nothing about the facts behind the decision, a gutsy decision by one of the best Democratic Presidents in the history of our nation.

    Obama left his message in Hiroshima, he implied what he intended and now the real history will be that much harder to tell.
     
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  2. MarAzul

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    I agree entirely. However your job was most successfully executed resulting in the desired outcome. No apologies will ever be needed.
     
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    BlazerCaravan Hug a Bigot... to Death

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    Pre-apologizing for Trump in an attempt to keep every country from nuking us.
     
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    crandc Well-Known Member

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    Ah, e_blazer, reality based again!
     
  5. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    True. But Obama started his presidency with an apology tour and now he's ending it the same way!
     
  6. Stevenson

    Stevenson Old School

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    Well, it can't be that he was going there to promote peace and highlight the need for increased nuclear disarmament in this crazy, mixed up world.

    If Obama did it, it must be bad.
     
  7. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Credit where credit is due. I think it's a great thing he's doing. It didn't cost the taxpayers but a few tens of $millions for his trip.
     
  8. MarAzul

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    Ha! I have to chuckle just a little over what I wrote above. It would be completely ridiculous to expect Obama to think is terms of quantitative analysis,
    he thinks in terms of feeling almost entirely, especially how others will feel about his actions.

    No, this is not a racial judgment, it is a character type issue.
     
  9. MarAzul

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    Oh geez! I think his actions could end up costing us hugely. Perhaps not all in dollars.
     
  10. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I would gently suggest that perhaps it could be you who is having the 'feelings' here, rather than rational analysis.

    Your lens appears to be such that no matter what Obama says or does, it will be wrong.

    "They say he did not apologize, but to me, he did indeed"

    barfo
     
  11. MarAzul

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    Yep, I put that in my post. As I said, in his backhanded way...
     
  12. theprunetang

    theprunetang Shaedon "Deadly Nightshade" Sharpe is HIM

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    Much ado over nothing. These guys have such an automatic trigger for anything Obama does. They are triggered by Obama's micro-aggressions.....hehe
     
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  13. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    I truly meant he deserves credit for doing a good thing.

    It would be even better if he just stayed there until January next year. He can take congress with him.
     
  14. santeesioux

    santeesioux Just keep on scrolling by

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    He wanted the latest waifu body pillows and hentai.
     
  15. PDXFonz

    PDXFonz I’m listening

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    They already are? Or that they could be? I don't know, take your pick.
     

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