Spoiled liberal thinks he's above the law

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  1. Denny Crane

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    So as you continously rail against government, you praise the individual that went and completely wasted the government's time and therefore our money? :dunno:
     
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    First of all, you have no idea if it wasted any time more than any other collection.

    The guy's gripe is with government. He used his 1st amendment right of free speech to protest. His gripe wasn't with the cop or her. He protested against the government as he saw fit, and it was entirely harmless.

    No, I have no issue with what he did.

    I'd have issue with the government cracking down on nonviolent dissent.
     
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    After you post some DRIVEL like this I'm done debating. So had he handed the lady a $220 check I'm sure it would've taken the same amount of time. You know, being that they'd have to count the number of lines it took to write Two Hundred and Twenty.
     
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    They took 2 minutes to load the coins into a coin counter and let it robotically count them. They didn't even have to watch the machine work.
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    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/31/5103

    31 U.S. Code ยง 5103 - Legal tender

    United States coins and currency (including Federal reserve notes and circulating notes of Federal reserve banks and national banks) are legal tender for all debts, public charges, taxes, and dues. Foreign gold or silver coins are not legal tender for debts.
     
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    So you're admitting it took longer than handing the lady a check. Good.
     
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    I am admitting the woman is paid to do her job and she did. Any extra time is both insignificant and irrelevant.

    The guy was within his rights. He's not the first to pay a ticket in pennies, and he won't be the last.
     
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    Within his rights but still an asshole.

    I'm sure it wasn't 2 minutes either. He dumped out the coins, she had to pick them up and put them back in the buckets. Then someone has to go to a local coinstar, not one on site, and coinstar keeps a cut of that money too I believe. He still paid the government the money, as you pointed out, so he didn't get one over on them. All he did was make her day worse. The fact that she works there or comcast or anywhere else where people are mean to her all day shouldn't matter, are you a dick to people just becuase others are too? Those are the folks I try to be especially nice and patient with becuase they've probably already had a rough day.
     
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    Being within ones rights and doing something that others have and will done doesn't negate the fact of his rudeness. I don't see how that's debatable.
     
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    And then keep losing your count and start over lol
     
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    I made no comment about him being an asshole or not.

    He's within his rights.

    He made the news.

    His complaint was heard.

    The woman can go back to filing her nails or whatever she does when there's nobody in line.
     
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    Every damn time he made a peep
     
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    On the one hand, I don't think you can ignore the fact that police have become a revenue stream for government, and that was never their intended job.

    The government, whether it's the Feds, or just a small town, make money off of law enforcement. Either it's millions upon millions of dollars from drug enforcement seizures, or it's a traffic cam, policing has become profitable.

    So if someone were to want to demonstrate against police revenuing, I'm not going to fault them. And this would be one of the only ways to do it. Fighting it in court isn't going to do anything. The Judge is on the payroll. That's basically Roger Goodell deciding if his own punishment for Tom Brady was a just punishment. They're not unbiased at all. They're part of the machine.

    Sometimes the people on the front lines have to take the heat. I have been that person answering the phone, taking the abuse, and you know what? It works. If someone called up and pushed the right buttons, they get a manager and they get what they want. That's how our society works. The squeaky wheel gets the grease.
     
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    When i did tech support on the phone and someone was a complete fuck up i just walked them through shit they didnt need so i could be on the call all day and not have to think. If it was an ass hole id purposely waste their time. But i am a true ass hole, but only to those who deserve it.
     
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    He was a jerk. A jerk who was within his rights, but a jerk.

    I guess the problem I have is (true at comcast too) the clerk has no power, she didn't make the rules, she didn't write the ticket, she didn't scold the man, she didn't do anything accept take a very low-level job to most likely help take care of her family. Sure, you could say she can find another job, and that may (or may not) be true, but regardless, it's still taking out the aggravations on someone who has zero authority either before or after the fact. She was even nice.

    The penny guy has the right to his free speech, just like a neo-nazi has a right to tattoo swastika's on his forehead. Both are dicks, and the first amendment might give them the right to state their opinion, but that doesn't mean their opinions are 1) correct, 2) expressed properly. In this case, penny-man might be right that it's policing for profit, but he should find a way to protest to those who have influence. Go to court, pour the pennies on the mayors lawn, write to every reporter, carry a sign outside the price station.... But don't be mean to someone who has no say.
     
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    This. I'd add that if enough people pay in pennies, it would get more attention from the bureaucrats.
     
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    Usually you have to talk to the clerk before you can be escalated to a supervisor or a manger.
     
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    Perhaps it would, but even so he can do it in a nicer way. 1) he doesn't need to dump the pennies on the floor. 2) He could explain his action so the protest was noted. 3) He can actually say something nice to the clerk and not run away like a punk at the end. 4) He could detail in a letter or somewhere why this ticket is an example of policing for profit and not just a petty man who thinks he's above the law. Protesting can work, and it is true that inconveniencing others can get the attention of the bureaucrats, for example when large protests go onto the bridges or into traffic to make sure their actions impede the flow of the city. But I just think both cases are mean to everyday people and I want nothing to do with those asshats. Going out of ones way to ruin another persons day is dickish egomania in most cases.
     

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