Anybody else starting to think Gorton is clueless and has no idea how to be a GM?

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  1. kreidertime

    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    Teams win. Not individuals. Stop sucking Hagelin off. If Hagelin and Kreider could ever score on a fukkkking breakaway the Rangers would have beat the Kings in the finals.
     
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    strudwickisthebest Well-Known Member

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    An individual definitely takes personal satisfaction in a win.
    Yes I remember clearly in game one when Haglin have a breakaway with two minutes left and, in typical ranger fashion, missed
     
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    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    So much for no trades allowed before the draft. Devils just made a trade.
     
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    yeah! nice snag too. it sucks the pick is in 2018 but hey its "free". i do believe your allowed to trade after the deadline just like in baseball but there are certain rules on the types of players involved.
     
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    cagedlion "I am the problem, and I am the solution."

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    I'll say here and now.........every Ranger, for the right price, is tradeable. So, Gorton
    what are you waiting for? If the Hagelin for Etem is any sign, you are one terrible
    jackass of a GM!
     
  6. kreidertime

    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    Hagelin was dealt for picks which resulted in Gropp who projects as a lot better player than Hagelin.
     
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    cagedlion "I am the problem, and I am the solution."

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    Kreider, thanks for that info. There are times that I get so pissed off at Ranger
    management's player moves.........it all falls into crap moves. Gropp looks to be
    promising. If he's anything like Panthers' Trocheck, I'll be happy.
     
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    Ranger71 Well-Known Member

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    And i think Jensen was had through that too.
     
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    gropp projects to be a better player than Hags? we'll see. Hags just hoisted the Stanley Cup. He played an important role for the Penquins. Gropp at this point is all potential. Hags is a champion.
     
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    6/14/16 | 4:12PM: According to Pierre LeBrun, the Rangers have not held any contract talks with pending UFA Keith Yandle because they would "have to move out money before they even pick up the phone." (ESPN)

    LeBrun says that unless the Rangers are able to move out some money and create cap space, "all signs point" toward Yandle becoming a UFA. (ESPN)

    LeBrun notes, "there shouldn't be any shortage of interest in a puck-moving, power-play stud like him." (ESPN)

    For more on Yandle's potential future, click HERE.

    Adam Rotter: The Rangers will miss Yandle but their lack of salary cap space combined with the amount of money they already have committed on defense and the amount that Yandle will get as a UFA will preclude him from coming back. If the Rangers find a way to move all of, or at least most of, either Dan Girardi or Marc Staal's contract it may be another story. That seems like a long shot though and Yandle will be running another team's power play next season.

    Sounds like we'll know sooner than later if were resigning Yandle. If no trades done when free agency opens Yandle will be out of here quickly.
     
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    Ranger71 Well-Known Member

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    Buyout Girardi and trade Hayes and there you go. Thats 6m right there. Then if you can't trade Staal he goes into the expansion pool next summer.
     
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    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    Mike Peluso is a champion and he was a reject. Hagelin was a 35 point player here who wanted 4 million dollars a year. Whoopdee fucking doo. Gropp has tremendous speed and he's 6'2. He's a first or second line player type. Hagelin was a role player. Kessel was carrying his ass most of the playoffs. Kessel is a fat slob but he's always been a great playoff guy.


    If the Rangers trade Stepan for Dumba and the 15th, they can sign Yandle anytime they like.
     
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    Sometimes it takes a trade and then a move to another team to wake a player up. The Rangers couldn't afford Hags, they got what they could for him. The alternative to Etem was letting Hags walk for nothing. If Staal & Girardi won't move send them to the minors and take the cap penalty. Skjei, McIlrath & Graves make peanuts, would free up cap money in the end.
     
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    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    I think you will see the Rangers try to go back to speed. They were slow as hell last year. Pitt skated circles around them which I haven't seen in years.
     
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    I'd like to see them target Darren Helm. I think Hayes is staying, and Hayes played his best hockey with a smallish, speedy winger on his left who can chase pucks and loved to shoot. Obviously that's Carl Hagelin, but that's also Helm. He's coming of a 2 yr/2.5m per deal. If we can get him for 3/2.75 and stick him on the 3rd line with Hayes and maybe Buchnevich I'd think about that for sure as the lack of speed hurt this team tremendously.

    I posted a few weeks ago an article with a GM saying there's a market for Marc Staal. Gordon has to get that GM on the phone immediately and accept whatever it is they are willing to give. We need to get Yandle under contract.

    Girardi will be here I think. I see the front office counting on the fact that he has significant surgery with no time to train over the summer, and hopefully an early exit and some rest and workouts get him back to a serviceable 3rd pair guy. Then you expose him in the expansion draft and hope the new team wants him for 2 years for their locker room. Could happen. Either way, if he has a decent year this year his NMC will lessen a bit and maybe we can find a taker after this year.
     
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    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    I also like Helm. I think he's a tough guy to play against and he flies out there. If there is a market for Staal and they can get him to leave, that would be great. He wasn't all that bad last year. It's just that the team is stocked on the left side with McDonagh, Skjei, Graves and Yandle. So, moving him and McDonagh would still leave the organization in good shape on the left side. Though, I don't think the Rangers will pursue any role players like Helm. I believe they are counting on players like Hrvik, Fogarty, Jensen and Nieves to fill a couple of the role player roles for dirt cheap if they don't trade for some. I don't blame them. Plus, I'd rather have Martin than Helm. He brings more of what the team is lacking.

    Either way, the team is suddenly a mess. There have to be 3-4 major names headed out the door. That much I'm sure of.
     

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