247 people on the no fly list have bought guns

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  1. Denny Crane

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    Geez, this is unbelievable! The current leader of our country actually wants to do this crap. The Person running to replace him want to do this crap.
    It becomes a joke on this board.

    I had an employee on this figgin list and we never could get him off of it. He was on apparently because the government had listed someone else with the same name,
    it mattered not that my employee was from Austria, still couldn't fly from the US.

    There are 95 people with my name in California, 16 more in Oregon. I do hope they all behave. No! Screw these fascist Democrats and their ditch the Constitution agenda.
     
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    It's not the actions of democrats (you admitted that yourself), it's the actions of people who don't know how to solve the problem.

    I can't fault them, there's no clear cut way to determine who has immoral intentions. But you can't fault them for trying.

    Someone recently told me something I (surprisingly) hadn't heard before - We judge ourselves by our intentions, and others by their actions.

    What is the answer to this? To me it starts with honesty not only to ourselves but to others about your intentions. Unfortunately many still lie about their intentions and try to disguise it in their actions.
     
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    Actually I believe it is specifically the Democrats and their agenda. Their tactic is to never waste a crisis, such as terrorist attack.
    If implemented, it would have had no effect on this incident, but no matter, it is an opportunity to stroke the agenda again.
     
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    I do fault them for trying not to do what is needed. We, the people of the United States have had war declared on us. Acts of war have been committed several time now, targeting the people of this country. These are not criminal acts, they are acts of war by enemy combatants. They should be treated as enemy combatants, not criminals. The FBI should be hunting enemy combatants, not trying to determine if people intend to commit crimes.

    To make this change in approach to the threat we face, the Presdent needs to ask Congress to declare war on our advisary. Congress needs to do it's duty and define the the enemie. Then the forces of this country can begin to focus on the real problem, those that would attack the people in this country to cause maximum carnage for being non believers.

    There are Muslims in this country that know Islam needs to under go a reformation, I suspect there are others in the rest of the world. They can help and we should help them get it done. We will be under attack until we get on track to do something objective to change the current status.
     
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    So, you are against the no-fly list, but you want the FBI to 'hunt enemy combatants'. And when they find one, then what? Give them a ride to the gun store? Buy them an airline ticket?

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    Donald Trump wants to place emigrated American's on a no fly list. So are you claiming he is not the republican he has fooled many into believing he is? Or are you not completely thinking this through?
     
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    Good question. We do have history to look for possible answers. What is your preference?
     
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    Isn't that one in the same?

    And what will this accomplish. Will defeating a group of people force others to change their minds on how one should act? Or will it inspire others to step up and act in the same way as their predecessors?
     
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    Ask "a" question, perhaps I can answer.
     
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    How about the history of the war on terrorism against Al Qaeda, and the resurrection of hate via Isis?

    It's like the Hydra of Lerna. Eliminate "the enemy" and another will pop up.

    You can defeat a certain terrorist organization, but that doesn't get rid of their corrupted beliefs which are the root of their evil.
     
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    How can you claim it is a democratic opinion when a republican candidate has a similar approach?
     
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    What is the same?
     
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    The enemy combatants they are hunting are because of the crimes they are doing. Shouldn't they then determine who intends to commit crimes in order to hunt the enemy combatants?
     
  17. MarAzul

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    What? I have not heard Trump say anything about more gun bans.
     
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    My preference would be to not sell them guns.

    Your preference, apparently, would be to hunt and kill them instead. Do I have that right?

    I'm not clear on how they have constitutional rights to buy guns, but not to live.

    I guess the constitution is funny that way.

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    They are not empowered to hunt enemy combatants as it stands right now. They investigated this fellow on tips from Disney and co-workers but had no solid evidence of the crime he would commit. So they were looking for potential criminal activity but found none. According to the FBI director, they backed off because of fear of harassing a Muslim. When they are looking for enemy combatants the game changes, enemy combatants do not have the same Constitutional protection.
    Thus it matter what we call these people that have declared war on us, and we should return the favor to set the game on the correct legal playing field for Law enforcement.
     
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