247 people on the no fly list have bought guns

I have guns, I enjoy shooting them, but the FBI should be able to put a hold on my ability to own or buy guns for a period of time while they actively investigate me as a threat to the USA or human lives.

 

There were 10,000 names on the list in 2011, 21,000 in 2012, and 47,000 in 2013.

However, the list has been criticized on civil liberties and due process grounds, due in part to the potential for ethnic, religious, economic, political, or racial profiling and discrimination. It has also raised concerns about privacy and government secrecy. Finally, it has been criticized as costly, prone to false positives, and easily defeated.
The No Fly List is different from the Terrorist Watch List, a much longer list of people said to be suspected of some involvement with terrorism. The Terrorist Watch List contained around 1,000,000 names by March 2009.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Fly_List

 

We can all agree you are the rare exception to the rule.

 

That happens today in response to certain events, like a conviction for domestic violence. The same should happen when you declare allegence to an enemy of the United States. Right now we have none documented, we should have at least one. The same one this fellow declared allegiance to, ISIS or ISIL.
But that is up to the President and he has no stomach for the responsibility.

 

Most of these people lately didn't declare allegiance till they were deep into the act of terrorism. When the FBI receives chatter about someone, or they are corresponding with likely ISIS members or are believed to be sympathizers, the FBI should have the power to put a hold on their gun purchases. We need to get away from this NRA type thinking that any action restricting firearm ownership is the end of America.

 

Hell, he did it himself, multiple co workers said he did and he told the FBI he was with ISIS. But we are not at war with ISIS officially, so they have no legal basis
for finding enemy combatants.

Yes, once you declare support for the enemy of the United states, you should lose all rights and privileges of being a citizen. You are a traitor and possibly an enemy combatant.

 

That's why we need to define our enemy and make it official. I don't think anyone, including the NRA would expect to sell arms to enemy combatants.

 

Ruth B. Shipley, Chief of the State Department’s Passport Office from 1928 to 1955. Look it up.

 

Terrorists are winning. We are focusing on restricting our citizens out of fear while their attacks get worse. What we need to do is turn isis strong holds into giant sheets of glass.

 

Nuke a known isis strong hold, then send some illegal immigrants in radioactive protected gear to draw this in the glass

About 40 miles square. Then video it from the air and put it on youtube for the sympothizers to watch.

 

I agree that limits should be in place. Perhaps timelines, or a judicial sign off. However, I would like to see an actual amendment removing such unfettered firearm access from being constitutionally protected. The capacity of these firearms is so much greater than when the constitution was written I think the concept needs to be revisited. I just want firearms to be considered more of a privlage and less of a right. Like being able to drive, we need to demonstrate a level of competence.

I know this is going to be attacked by many around here, but I just think the time has come to revisit the gun issue. Tens of thousands of gun deaths s year in our nation, perhaps we could reduce those numbers by some considerable fraction. Then again, perhaps we couldn't, and if that's proven out through unbiased studies I would be more willing to continue down the path we are on now. The point is, I think as a society we need to stop being so rigid on this issue and at least have serious and open debate based on research and the betterment of society. Both sides need to listen and consider more options.

 

Yea! I applaud your willingness to use the correct process. I will oppose your amendment I think, but I am please you are not ignoring the Constitution.
Good show!