Simmons or Ingram?

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Rastapopoulos, Jun 5, 2016.

?

Simmons or Ingram?

  1. Ben Simmons

  2. Brandon Ingram

  3. Other (specify)

Results are only viewable after voting.
  1. Pinwheel1

    Pinwheel1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2008
    Messages:
    22,668
    Likes Received:
    15,104
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I must admit I did not know Simmons weighed in at 240 at the Pre draft camp. I thought he was thinner.
    I really don't think either will be a bust. On the right team Simmons can be great. Not sure how he would fit with our offense.
    But a smart coach will adapt to fit his skill set and a smart gM will surround him with the right players. I would not be surprised if he had a rough couple of years before he excelled. But he really is quite talented. Again it comes down to his attitude and work ethic.

    Ingram on the other hand will fit any offense, because he can flat out shoot the rock. Very smooth player.
     
  2. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2008
    Messages:
    44,272
    Likes Received:
    26,815
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Pizza guy hates Simmon's attitude and motor. I'll go with Ingram

    Also a bit of a prima dona with his "demands" of only going to the Lakers.
     
    Sedatedfork, riverman and BBert like this.
  3. BBert

    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2008
    Messages:
    26,461
    Likes Received:
    20,058
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Poster Boy
    Location:
    Blazerlandia
    Umm...no
     
  4. Rastapopoulos

    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2008
    Messages:
    40,826
    Likes Received:
    25,045
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Ballin'
    Also the fact that Ingram reminds us of Durant, and we know what happened when we didn't draft Durant.
     
    PtldPlatypus likes this.
  5. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2008
    Messages:
    34,275
    Likes Received:
    43,615
    Trophy Points:
    113
    That's it for me, and probably a fatal flaw in my thinking. Simmons doesn't really remind me of anyone in particular (people say he has Lebron's court-vision, but he seems to lack the explosive athleticism), whereas I can't help but see Durant when I watch Ingram.
     
  6. riverman

    riverman Writing Team

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2013
    Messages:
    67,841
    Likes Received:
    66,596
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I think I saw Simmons in 4 games this season and I don't get the hype...
     
    BonesJones likes this.
  7. Pinwheel1

    Pinwheel1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2008
    Messages:
    22,668
    Likes Received:
    15,104
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Wally Szczerbiak on Brandon Ingram and Ben Simmons

     
  8. BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94

    BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 AWOL

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2013
    Messages:
    21,056
    Likes Received:
    10,366
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I think Simmons biggest knock is he couldn't even take his team to the tournament in what I'd consider a down year for the SEC. If he is so great, why couldn't he get there?
     
    riverman likes this.
  9. Pinwheel1

    Pinwheel1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2008
    Messages:
    22,668
    Likes Received:
    15,104
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yeah but very few of these college players are good enough as freshman to single handily take their team to the tournament. I lean towards Ingram, but he couldn't do that either. Melo was more of the exception. It still comes down to how good can they be in 2-3 years........ when you are evaluating their draft value.
     
  10. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

    Joined:
    May 7, 2015
    Messages:
    44,536
    Likes Received:
    38,600
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Vancouver, WA
    I remember things like that being said about Oden compared to Durant.

    Why can't Ingram be a superstar?
     
  11. Rastapopoulos

    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2008
    Messages:
    40,826
    Likes Received:
    25,045
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Ballin'
  12. drexlersdad

    drexlersdad SABAS

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    4,825
    Likes Received:
    255
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Location:
    NEW New Hampshire
    This is your classic "nothing to gain" season from Simmons. If he singlehandedly lead LSU to the NCAA title, he still only goes #1. He probably figured out pretty quickly that wasn't going to be possible with his supporting cast. His main goal at that point was probably not getting injured. Hence the motor questions.
     
  13. KeepOnRollin

    KeepOnRollin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2010
    Messages:
    11,497
    Likes Received:
    5,679
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    North Idaho
    Last I read on this subject, studies had shown that you are more likely to get hurt when dialing it back and being lackadaisical then going hard.
     
    BonesJones and Orion Bailey like this.
  14. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

    Joined:
    May 7, 2015
    Messages:
    44,536
    Likes Received:
    38,600
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Vancouver, WA
    Notice how Simmons finishes everything around the rim with his right hand, but shoots jumpers left handed.

    Doesn't make sense
     
  15. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2008
    Messages:
    34,275
    Likes Received:
    43,615
    Trophy Points:
    113
    My older brother actually did the same. I'm not exactly sure why/when he started shooting his jumpers with his left, but he did all through high school.
     
  16. handiman

    handiman Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    Messages:
    5,881
    Likes Received:
    3,916
    Trophy Points:
    113
    One-and-doners don't read studies.
     
  17. Ed O

    Ed O Administrator Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    10,684
    Likes Received:
    2,779
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Seattle, WA
    I just pushed Simmons into the lead 23-22. While Ingram is over a year younger, and comparing an 18 year-old to a 19 year-old if often unfair, I still think that Simmon's amazing playmaking/vision is of superior value to Ingram's shooting. It seems very unlikely that the 76ers will pass on Simmons.
     
  18. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

    Joined:
    May 7, 2015
    Messages:
    44,536
    Likes Received:
    38,600
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Vancouver, WA
    Yeah, thing is Simmons can't shoot worth a damn. Might be worth trying to shoot right handed.
     
    Last edited: Jun 21, 2016
  19. Rastapopoulos

    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2008
    Messages:
    40,826
    Likes Received:
    25,045
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Ballin'


    (Although, consider the source...)
     
  20. Rastapopoulos

    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2008
    Messages:
    40,826
    Likes Received:
    25,045
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Ballin'
    We've found the new Tristan Thompson!!!
     
    BonesJones likes this.

Share This Page