Jim Brown was a man among boys when he played. They played 12 game seasons, barely wore pads, and he never got tackled for a lost. Watch some of his highlights. He had a nose for the goal line. He would always try his best to not get tackled. As for Faulk...he wasn't just dominant during that three year span. He was a very good player his whole career. It just kicked off during that span. Take a look at Tiki Barber same thing happened with him. Agent0-I was agreeing with you. I think you might have interpreted my post wrong where I said I'd like to hear an argument. You posed a great argument. Nice post.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rambo @ Jan 17 2007, 10:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>As for Faulk...he wasn't just dominant during that three year span. He was a very good player his whole career. It just kicked off during that span. Take a look at Tiki Barber same thing happened with him. Agent0-I was agreeing with you. I think you might have interpreted my post wrong where I said I'd like to hear an argument. You posed a great argument. Nice post.</div>Well I'm never going to take anything away from Tomlinson, because I think he's a great player and has a great chance to ultimately be better than Faulk by the end of this career, because I mean, this was only his 6th season in the NFL, and he still has several to go; but for now for boyskinsforpresident to say that LT is already better than Faulk, that's just asinine regardless of how elite dude was this past season. Stick him on the Rams in the Greatest Show on Turf era with Kurt Warner, Isaac Bruce, and Torry Holt, there's no way he gets the ball nearly enough in a Martz oriented offense, and that would get him less yards, and less stats. That's why when Faulk got the ball in the GSOT era, he made the most of it on every single down he got it, taking that opportunity full force.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Agent0 @ Jan 17 2007, 10:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well I'm never going to take anything away from Tomlinson, because I think he's a great player and has a great chance to ultimately be better than Faulk by the end of this career, because I mean, this was only his 6th season in the NFL, and he still has several to go; but for now for boyskinsforpresident to say that LT is already better than Faulk, that's just asinine regardless of how elite dude was this past season. Stick him on the Rams in the Greatest Show on Turf era with Kurt Warner, Isaac Bruce, and Torry Holt, there's no way he gets the ball nearly enough in a Martz oriented offense, and that would get him less yards, and less stats. That's why when Faulk got the ball in the GSOT era, he made the most of it on every single down he got it, taking that opportunity full force.</div>I agree. LT isn't in the top 15 yet. Faulk is sure-fire top 15. He even did it with guys like Holt and Bruce. A Martz offense is pass oriented as well.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rambo @ Jan 17 2007, 10:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I agree. LT isn't in the top 15 yet. Faulk is sure-fire top 15. He even did it with guys like Holt and Bruce. A Martz offense is pass oriented as well.</div>Yeah, you know, that's what I've been trying to get through to boykinsforpresident that main fact. It's just scary to look back on how Marshall still did all that in that wild 80% passing attack of an offense. I'd like to see what Tomlinson could do there, because I doubt he would be very happy in that situation of not being handed the ball on all these counters and off-tackles as such.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rambo @ Jan 17 2007, 10:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I agree. LT isn't in the top 15 yet. Faulk is sure-fire top 15. He even did it with guys like Holt and Bruce. A Martz offense is pass oriented as well.</div>How can you seriously put Marshall Faulk in the Top 15? That is Bush league!Marshall Faulks Career stats.... Att. Yds. Avg Lng TD Rec Rec Yds RecAvg. Lng TD Fum LstCareer 2836 12279 4.3 71 100 767 6875 9.0 85 36 36 25 Over 13 seasons thats not even that impressive
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Agent0 @ Jan 17 2007, 10:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, you know, that's what I've been trying to get through to boykinsforpresident that main fact. It's just scary to look back on how Marshall still did all that in that wild 80% passing attack of an offense. I'd like to see what Tomlinson could do there, because I doubt he would be very happy in that situation of not being handed the ball on all these counters and off-tackles as such.</div>And having to block 65% of the time.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (boykinsforpresident @ Jan 17 2007, 10:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>How can you seriously put Marshall Faulk in the Top 15? That is Bush</div>Coming from the man that puts LT ahead of Faulk.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SunnyD @ Jan 17 2007, 10:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Give me the 15 ahead of Faulk Boykins...</div>I'm waiting to hear as well as you.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Agent0 @ Jan 17 2007, 10:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm waiting to hear as well as you.</div>As am I.
OJ Simpson should get some love here. he could slash through helpless defenders unlike anyone. the pun was intended.
Well this is OT, but I'm going to go to bed for tonight, I'll return to this thread definitely tommorow to hear boykins' inevitable response.
LTBarry SandersWalter PaytonHerschel WalkerOJ SimpsonBo JacksonEric DickersonJim Brown Earl CampbellTony DorsettGale SayersEmmith Smith Terrell DavisRicky WatersRobert SmithJeorme BettisEddie George(Retired early)Curtis Martin
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (boykinsforpresident @ Jan 17 2007, 11:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>LTBarry SandersWalter PaytonHerschel WalkerOJ SimpsonBo JacksonEric DickersonJim Brown Earl CampbellTony DorsettGale SayersEmmith Smith Terrell DavisRicky WatersRobert SmithJeorme BettisEddie George(Retired early)</div>Faulk is better than Terrell Davis, George, Bettis, LT, and Ricky Watters. You did forget Curtis Martin though.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (boykinsforpresident @ Jan 17 2007, 11:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>LTBarry SandersWalter PaytonHerschel WalkerOJ SimpsonBo JacksonEric DickersonJim Brown Earl CampbellTony DorsettGale SayersEmmith Smith Terrell DavisRicky WatersRobert SmithJeorme BettisEddie George(Retired early)Curtis Martin</div>That list lost all credibility when I saw Herschel Walker.
After reading through this thread it's the usual backs:Emmitt SmithBarry SandersJim BrownMarshall FaulkWalter PaytonCurtis MartinEric DickersonTony DorsettOJ SimpsonDisregard any players I did not list.By the way, the latest discussion has been way too funny saying that Faulk shouldn't even be in the top 15 of elite backs of All-Time, because it's pretty obvious he should be. I agree with Agent0 100%.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DuncanMVP @ Jan 18 2007, 07:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>After reading throug this thread it's the usual backs:Jim BrownMarshall FaulkWalter PaytonCurtis MartinEric DickersonTony DorsettOJ SimpsonDisregard any players I did not list.By the way, the latest discussion has been way too funny saying that Faulk shouldn't even be in the top 15 of elite backs of All-Time, because it's pretty obvious he should be. I agree with Agent0 100%.</div>Disregard Barry Sanders? I think not.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SunnyD @ Jan 18 2007, 07:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Disregard Barry Sanders? I think not.</div>Oh my God! :ranting: I can't believe I forgot him.
