Veepstakes

Discussion in 'Blazers OT Forum' started by crandc, Jun 22, 2016.

  1. crandc

    crandc Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    Messages:
    22,894
    Likes Received:
    29,663
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Hillary Clinton is reportedly down to three:

    HUD Secretary and former San Antonio mayor Julian Castro
    Virginia Senator Tim Kaine
    Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren

    Donald Trump is more in the rumor category but seems to focus on:

    New Jersey Governor Chris Christie
    Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich
    Alabama Senator Jeff Sessions

    So can we, without getting nasty about Clinton and Trump, say who we think 1) should 2) will be running mates?

    If I were a betting woman I'd say Warren and Sessions. Warren because she is the leading choice among Democrats and the Sanders supporters love her. Sessions because he is the least colorful and Trump does not want competition.
     
    SlyPokerDog likes this.
  2. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    94,080
    Likes Received:
    57,237
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    Ugh. Christie might be worse than trump.
     
    SlyPokerDog and Further like this.
  3. riverman

    riverman Writing Team

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2013
    Messages:
    68,347
    Likes Received:
    67,401
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I think Clinton picks Warren and Trump picks through a short Apprentice reality TV show firing everyone until he has a VP winner
     
    SlyPokerDog and Chris Craig like this.
  4. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2008
    Messages:
    34,325
    Likes Received:
    43,687
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Seeing Christie and Gingrich at the top of the Trump list makes me think that maybe he really isn't interested in winning after all.
     
  5. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2008
    Messages:
    44,783
    Likes Received:
    27,542
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The only reason I think Clinton may not choose Warren is that a two woman ticket may scare a lot of voters. Call it sexist, or whatever, but I believe. If I were a Democrat, I wouldn't care, but I think some would. Kaine is probably the one that would make the most sense for her. She doesn't need Castro for the Hispanic vote, IMO

    Trumps best chance would be to find someone who is a moderate. He's won the nomination, so he needs to convince people like me, with his VP, that it won't be completely bat shit crazy in Washington if he is elected....somehow

    Rubio makes a ton of sense for Trump, but he can't afford the embarrassment of him turning him down. That's who I'd go after though. A bit of a moderate and will carry some clout in the Hispanic community.

    Now ask me how angry I am that the Presidency likely hinges on who the fucking Hispanics vote for
     
    SlyPokerDog likes this.
  6. crandc

    crandc Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    Messages:
    22,894
    Likes Received:
    29,663
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Actually I think MM has a point about a two-woman ticket. If there are people afraid to vote for one woman, two would be more so. Funny, for 200+ years it was OK to have a two-man ticket! While Clinton has overwhelming support over Trump among Hispanic voters, there are many swing states where they are a big part of the voting population but don't have high turnout. I think Castro on the ticket could change that. Kaine is safe but pretty unexciting.

    Trump already said he is only considering white men so that lets out Rubio. And Rubio is no moderate, a pure Tea Party. I don't think Trump wants a moderate and I'm not so sure there are any, except maybe Susan Collins and she's female so that lets her out.
     
    SlyPokerDog likes this.
  7. Further

    Further Guy

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2008
    Messages:
    11,099
    Likes Received:
    4,039
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Stuff doer
    Location:
    Place
    I'm really not sure it's a negative at all to have a 2-woman ticket. Sure, there are many people who would not vote for a woman for Pres, and many more that wouldn't vote for a Democrat, and Still others who wouldn't vote specifically for Hillary. However, I don't see anyone who would vote for a Woman, would vote for a Dem, and would vote for Hillary that would have any issue with another female candidate. That's not to say Warren couldn't give people reason to vote against her, just as Palin gave plenty cause for concern. Personally, I like Warren a ton and would love if she ran.
     
    SlyPokerDog likes this.
  8. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2008
    Messages:
    34,325
    Likes Received:
    43,687
    Trophy Points:
    113
    More breaking news on Trump. I completely missed this report.

    Link?
     
  9. santeesioux

    santeesioux Just keep on scrolling by

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2008
    Messages:
    10,745
    Likes Received:
    5,325
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Trolling the internet
    Location:
    Southern Oregon
    It's a small voting bloc, but choosing Warren would lose the Native American vote.
     
  10. crandc

    crandc Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    Messages:
    22,894
    Likes Received:
    29,663
    Trophy Points:
    113
    SlyPokerDog likes this.
  11. MarAzul

    MarAzul LongShip

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2008
    Messages:
    21,370
    Likes Received:
    7,281
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Life is good!
    Location:
    Near Bandon Oregon
    It doesn't bother you that Warren claimed to be a Cherokee? Geez, I would much rather have a real Cherokee, woman or not.
     
  12. MarAzul

    MarAzul LongShip

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2008
    Messages:
    21,370
    Likes Received:
    7,281
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Life is good!
    Location:
    Near Bandon Oregon
    I think Clinton should pick the best know Gay Black Muslim woman.
     
  13. Further

    Further Guy

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2008
    Messages:
    11,099
    Likes Received:
    4,039
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Stuff doer
    Location:
    Place
    Not even a tiny bit. Now Trump calling her Pocahontas, that's offensive.

    I'm about 1% Chinese, a family member had some genetic testing. Warren was told where she came from (as far as I know) and that included a lineage with Cherokee in it. She could, or she could not, but I certainly can't tell by looking. Do I look Chinese in my Avatar?
     
  14. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2008
    Messages:
    34,325
    Likes Received:
    43,687
    Trophy Points:
    113
  15. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    59,706
    Likes Received:
    60,130
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Hillary:

    Tim Kaine is the safe, but boring pick. He helps Hillary win Virginia, a usual Republican state, though its gone blue the last two elections, so maybe she doesn't need him for that. Pro - He is safe and reliable, ready to be president if something happens, a more lucid version of Joe Biden. Con - His political positions make me think he is a Republican in democratic clothing.

    Elizabeth Warren would mean a two woman ticket, a bold move by Hillary to say the least. Warren could be her attack dog against Trump, while also drawing in those upset Bernie voters from the far left. Warren hails from a state that is safely blue, so no real help there. Still an intriguing duo that would bring more balls to the table then Trumps ticket that will likely have two men.

    Julian Castro has the least experience of the three. He brings youth, his latino herritage, and the fact that he hails from Texas, a dominate red state, that Hillary would love to get her hands on, which is no doubt one of the reasons, if not the main one he is being vetted for. He is also an outsider, a fresh face that can help counter the old stinch on this year's election. Problem is, could I really see him taking over the presidency if something happen to old cottage cheese legs, I'm not sure.

    Should pick: Warren

    Will pick : Kaine

    Trump:

    Newt Gingrich: Trump has stated that he wants a boring insider as his veep, and Newt has been in Washington D.C. since the last supper. Also, they both look like frogs so it works.

    Chris Christie: Trumps lap dog, went from despising and talking trash about Trump, to licking his shoes. Christie's stock has fallen in his Home State of New Jersey. Is he still governor there? Doesn't seem like he has been back there since he started campaigning for Trump and standing in the corner during Trump speeches. Sad, but Trump likee. Not, that Christie would be a great president once, I mean if something happens to Trump like dying of old age.

    Jeff Sessions hails from Alabama, a state so red, the color is etched into its peoples necks permanently. Sessions agrees on Trump with everything, because who wouldn't, and has the political experience that Trump is missing. Seems like an easy choice for Trump, probably why he won't make it.

    Mary Fallin - If Trump were intelligent he would strongly consider this hard nosed governor from Oklahoma. A Republican firecracker who could strike hard against Hillary Clinton, and disarm voters who are angry at Trump for his less then tactful comments in the past about women among other things.

    Should Choose: Fallin

    Will Choose: Sessions because it's the right choice. Who am I kidding, Trump will pick Christie because there is nothing Trump enjoys more then a lap dog, that he can bark at and demean. Plus, there will be no need for anyone to take over for him should something happen, because nothing will ever happen to Trump...
     
    Last edited: Jun 22, 2016
    Further and crandc like this.
  16. crandc

    crandc Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    Messages:
    22,894
    Likes Received:
    29,663
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Good analysis, Chris. Were you being deliberately tongue in cheek when you said Clinton/Warren would bring "more balls"?
    But I still say Sessions.

    Hillary Clinton and Elizabeth Warren are doing a campaign event together in Ohio next week - read into it what you want.

    Platypus, the "white male only" comment was partially walked back as in "I'd consider someone else if they were qualified". Gee, Trump was trying to be "politically correct"! Problem is the "others" are always judged "not qualified" as they are not pale or male. I've heard "consider a woman if she's qualified" all my life and it always seems to translate to "women are not qualified period."
     
  17. speeds

    speeds $2.50 highball, $1.50 beer Staff Member Administrator GFX Team

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2007
    Messages:
    39,366
    Likes Received:
    3,383
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Calgary, AB
    He's trying to leave an opening for Omarosa.
     
    Further and SlyPokerDog like this.
  18. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    59,706
    Likes Received:
    60,130
    Trophy Points:
    113
    @crandc I was figuratively being deliberate but serious...Hillary and Elizabeth would be a force to be reckoned with...I truely believe they could make Trump cry...If they get elected together I would not want to be on a Republican led Senate or in the house and try what they did with Obama...those gals would make them cry too
     
    Further likes this.
  19. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2008
    Messages:
    125,456
    Likes Received:
    145,688
    Trophy Points:
    115
    All white people claim to be part Cherokee. I blame Cher.

     
  20. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    59,706
    Likes Received:
    60,130
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I thought she was egyptian
     
    SlyPokerDog likes this.

Share This Page