Re: '06-07 Suns: Greatest team since the '80s? http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story...=simmons/070117Do you agree with Simmons' saying that this year's Phoenix Suns could quite possibly end up being the greatest team since Bird's Celtics and Magic's Lakers?I'll add my thoughts a little later because the 76ers game is about to start.
Re: '06-07 Suns: Greatest team since the '80s? They should start by being the greatest team in 06-07, which isn't guarunteed by any stretch of the imaginationand btw it'll take a heck of a lot for the suns to be greater than the 90s bulls.... or the three peat lakers......
Re: '06-07 Suns: Greatest team since the '80s? I think when he wrote that he may have forgotten about the Bulls(Edit: or 3-peat Lakers, Shaq was amazing!) because this team is not near those great dynasty teams yet but the Suns have the potential to be really, really amazing this year if they stay healthy. If James Jones doesn't lose his confidence again by playoff time this team's 8-man rotation is just phenomenal. Better defense and rebounding than the last two teams. With Raja, Amare and Kurt all there together the team is tougher and not quite the pushover it has been, the offense is better than it has ever been. I am amazed with this team but won't call them the best until they start winning against healthy top Western Conference teams. But still Amare is not at 100% yet and the shooters just got the ball that they loved back so they are still doing some improving. The Suns have 4 players that are shooting over 51% this year, we have guys that can score from outside, mid-range and inside. We have better shot blocking than ever....BUT NO MORE PRAISE YOU JINKS! I am excited about this team but the West is just unbelievably tough. They Mavs are amazing, the Spurs are the Spurs, the Nuggets have an excellent group of players, a healthy Rockets team looks very formidable, the Lakers have been very good and the Jazz are also scary. If only this team was where it's at now 2 years ago, with the Spurs as the only challenge.
Re: '06-07 Suns: Greatest team since the '80s? Yeah, I think the Suns should be more worried with being the best team this year, they certainly aren't over the last few seasons as Dallas and SA both beat them in the playoffs.Hell this year I'd still take the Spurs over them in a 7 game series, and definately the Mavs for sure.
Re: '06-07 Suns: Greatest team since the '80s? I read the article. I think it's stupid that he is implying that the Suns are a better team than the Jordan-led Bulls. The Bulls were the best team in the league at offense + defense, had the best coach in the league, and the best player in the league, to go along with a sidekick that GMs dream about.
Re: '06-07 Suns: Greatest team since the '80s? The Suns the best team since the 80's? Give me a break man. They arent even the best team in the league so far this season. They have had an easier schedule than the Mavericks so far this season AND they have a worse record. To even be saying that this team is better than the Bulls and Lakers is a disgrace. If you think about it, Phoenix has had this talent on their team in the past 2 years. Last year, they were almost as good as they are this year, and the same with 2 years ago. Now, this year's team is the best, but what make them SO much better than the other 2 seasons where they got eliminated in the playoffs? They are better, but not by that much.Also, look at what the Bulls and Lakers accomplished. The Bulls won 6 Championships with Jordan, and the Lakers won 3 rings in a row. Both of these teams had one of the best players in NBA history, and both of these teams had an amazing 2nd option, AND a team filled with great role players. AND, they both had one of the best 3 coaches in NBA history.Im sorry, this thread is a joke. If Phoenix wins it all this year, they still arent even close to the Bulls or Lakers. Period.
Re: '06-07 Suns: Greatest team since the '80s? Why they are better? Well 2 years ago they had 4 good players, sometimes 3, in the playoffs and 2 who knew how to play defense. Last year the team relied on outside shooting without Amare and they didn't have Kurt Thomas in the playoffs and he was playing very good interior defense for them. This team is better, not a little better but better than the past two teams. The guy is just making a prediction, you guys are too predictable and boring.
Re: '06-07 Suns: Greatest team since the '80s? lolThey aren't anywhere near Jordan's Bulls and Kobe/Shaq Lakers
Re: '06-07 Suns: Greatest team since the '80s? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ASUFan22 @ Jan 18 2007, 03:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why they are better? Well 2 years ago they had 4 good players, sometimes 3, in the playoffs and 2 who knew how to play defense. Last year the team relied on outside shooting without Amare and they didn't have Kurt Thomas in the playoffs and he was playing very good interior defense for them. This team is better, not a little better but better than the past two teams. The guy is just making a prediction, you guys are too predictable and boring. </div>No, YOU are predictable and boring. I have class.I don't know that Simmons explicitly says that they are a better team than the Lakers or Bulls, although it's hard to read it otherwise. I think a lot of what he's saying is about how they are a team that works so well together. At the end of the article, he kinda seems to request the Suns to make a trade for someone. I don't know, it kinda seems like he's talking more about excitement value than "greatness."
Re: '06-07 Suns: Greatest team since the '80s? The Phoenix Suns are obviously an extremely fun team to watch right now, but I just don't believe they have that grit and intensity on defense like Bird's Celtics, Jordan's Bulls, or even Malone's Jazz. They mostly win by outshooting their opponents, and while they do have individually good defensive players such as Raja Bell and Shawn Marion, it's all about the team defense. Teams like the Wizards or Raptors have good individually defensive players such as DeShawn Stevenson and TJ Ford. But both teams are attrocious on defense, overall.
Re: '06-07 Suns: Greatest team since the '80s? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Justice @ Jan 18 2007, 05:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No, YOU are predictable and boring. I have class.I don't know that Simmons explicitly says that they are a better team than the Lakers or Bulls, although it's hard to read it otherwise. I think a lot of what he's saying is about how they are a team that works so well together. At the end of the article, he kinda seems to request the Suns to make a trade for someone. I don't know, it kinda seems like he's talking more about excitement value than "greatness."</div>Yeah, it was more about the most exciting team since the Show Time Lakers and Bird's Celtics.The Suns aren't even the best team THIS year, so this article was written more as a "Man I like to watch this team play" deal than they are the best ever.
Re: '06-07 Suns: Greatest team since the '80s? I don't even know if the Suns will be the best team this year. I think the Mavs will be. And they certainly aren't better than Jordan's Bulls and the three-peat Lakers. I agree that his article was more the most exciting team rather than the best.
Re: '06-07 Suns: Greatest team since the '80s? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Marvinmartian @ Jan 18 2007, 06:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, it was more about the most exciting team since the Show Time Lakers and Bird's Celtics.The Suns aren't even the best team THIS year, so this article was written more as a "Man I like to watch this team play" deal than they are the best ever.</div>Don't go around giving your opinion like it's a fact.
Re: '06-07 Suns: Greatest team since the '80s? Comparing the Suns to Showtime, Bird's C's, 90's Bulls or the Bling Dynasty is worthy of a life sentence in prison if you ask me. Putting up points is great, but until they show that they can actually shut someone down, dominate the boards and be a great team in more than one style of play, they will still be the most overrated team in the league.
Re: '06-07 Suns: Greatest team since the '80s? Until they win a championship this is a pointless topic. 2 years ago they didn't have any defense and their 3rd best player was hurt in WCF. Last year they had absoilutely no inside presence. This year they have their best chance to win a title if everyone stays healthy. They still have some growing to do and they still need to work Amare in more in the situations where their shooting isn't going down.If they go on a 2-3 year run and win 2-3 championships, then we can start comparing them to the greats.
Re: '06-07 Suns: Greatest team since the '80s? Even then, I don't think that's fair. The Showtime Lakers, Birds C's and the 90's Bulls were on another level than what this Suns team will ever reach. A lot of Nash bias in the media if you ask me.
Re: '06-07 Suns: Greatest team since the '80s? It's just your hope that nobody passes Showtime but this offense right now is absolutely amazing and if they can pull of 3 championships in the next 3 years they can certainly be compared to those teams. Once everybody is at their best, meaning Amare, I don't think it'll be possible to hold this team under 100 points, ever. They can score in so many different ways and 6 players can all have 30 point games on any given night. They will prove themselves on defense, I know they will. They are much better than 2 years ago.
Re: '06-07 Suns: Greatest team since the '80s? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Michael Bryant @ Jan 18 2007, 09:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Even then, I don't think that's fair. The Showtime Lakers, Birds C's and the 90's Bulls were on another level than what this Suns team will ever reach. A lot of Nash bias in the media if you ask me.</div>Until this team fully meshes and everyone (Amare) is fully healthy it's unfair of us to juge. They have already had 2 streaks this year of 11 games or more, and who knows how long it will take for their current streak to end and another to pop up. They are extremely dangerous offensively, and defense is better than previous years. If Amare can get healthier and they can win multiple championships than I feel any comparisons would be fair.Nash is the best offensive player in the league right now. 20/12 on over 50% shooting is amazing for a PG. he has hit a few GW shots this year, and makes everyone around him much better. He's been incredible, whether you like him or not.
Re: '06-07 Suns: Greatest team since the '80s? With the three point shot, it's more complicated to compare them with Showtime but, those Laker teams were still better, all homerism aside!Also, remember that saying "defense wins championships"? Yeah, Showtime shut guys down. The Suns....eh not so much. If Phoenix can actually play great D on a regular basis then they can win a title but, their style right now wont.
Re: '06-07 Suns: Greatest team since the '80s? Nash will never be like MagicHe is in the perfect system but they have NO defense and haven't impressed me much in the playoffslike I said in another post....they can score 300 points but if they let up 301 that 300 means absolutely nothing except a lot of tired losersAre they even the best team in the NBA this year?I'd say the Mavericks > Suns
