Sign & Trade - it's our only hope...

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  1. BoomChakaLaka

    BoomChakaLaka Well-Known Member

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    Let's face it, our only hope may be the Sign & Trade;

    Lennard, Crabbe and a pick to Sac
    For Cousins

    Lennard, Crabbe to GSW
    Ezeli and Barnes

    Lenard for Monroe

    Other ideas?
     
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    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    Sac will want CJ & Harkless.

    Barnes signed with Dallas.
     
  4. ebott

    ebott Active Member

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    No deal like that has ever happened. In a sign and trade deal, the free agent is ALWAYS the best player involved.

    Our only option is to resign everyone and hope for the best. Give up on free agency forever. Always focus on the draft and making trades.
     
  5. BoomChakaLaka

    BoomChakaLaka Well-Known Member

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    Exactly! I'm a homer but realize Lenard and Crabbe are not the better players....
     
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    I was thinking some sort of three way trade where we land a Noel. The issue is our main tradeable assets are bigs and presumably a team like Philly would have no need fora plumlee. That's where a team like Houston or Toronto comes in.

    Something like

    To Philly: Portland 1st round pick, Houston 1st round pick

    To Houston: Plumlee or Ed Davis

    To Portland: Noel

    Could maybe throw Vonleh at one of those teams as well.
     
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    Are we just making changes for the sake of making changes now?
     
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    No. Making changes for the sake of shutting up fans bitching about the lack of changes.
     
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    I see the distinction
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Come on you guys aren't being fair. This was being touted as THE summer where Neil added some needle movers. We took a kick in the nuts last summer and we were told to be patient because THIS summer we were going to get it back. We were gonna add a third weapon.

    We got Evan turner at a steep price instead.

    I like turner. I wanted him on this team, but this is a serious letdown after all the buildup and chatter. Last year we exceeded expectations and that's great, but the rest of the west is building up. Things got tougher and all we did was add Evan turner.
     
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    I don't understand the draw to Noel at all.
     
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    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    Neil is a big talker. More flash than substance.

    He doesn't take risks. When he's forced to he panics - the Denver trade. He wasn't at all thinking long-term with that move.

    Aminu/Harkless/Davis/Plumlee are all solid acquisitions but not a single one of them move the needle. They're all solid role players. Mid-tier targets seem to be where Neil likes to operate.

    This route, Lillard/McColum are going to be ran into the ground.
     
  13. Schilly

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    He hasn't had the assets outside of cap space, which no Blazers GM has been successful with, to make deals yet. At least not in post Lamarcus era.
     
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    PDXFonz I’m listening

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    He should have known that Wes was gonna rupture his Achilles, a good GM would have known that.
     
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    It's not Neil's fault that you guys can't get your needles to move.
     
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    Individually, no, but collectively they got us to the second round and gave GS a run for their money when everyone thought we'd struggle to win 25 games. That moved my needle...

    Shut up you know what I mean. Anyway the offseason isn't over yet.
     
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    I wonder how much Noah can develop. We're pretty much stuck where we are unless he blows up.

    sigh
     
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    Could have argued that maxing out a Parsons coming off two knee injuries, and aiming to waive multiple RFAs to throw 40 mil at a 36 yr old Gasol are both huge risks.
     
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    Maybe ones other team might accept?
     
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    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    Maybe viagra is what Neil has been missing?
     
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