Is there a thread for this stuff already? If not, here it is. Could Oscar and Mo be headed out for a big? Stay tuned, kids
Sorry for asking the question again, but I keep getting mixed answers.......can we actually sign and trade multiple players in the same trade? Or combine them with other players?
No, not if you mean RFA's. Unless the trades are split. As in we trade 2 guys out and somehow the trades are seen as two separate deals (so one player coming back in 1 trade and a pick coming back in a second). Or the deals have to be done while we are under cap. Hope that isn't too confusing...
Technically yes, but it's difficult. In order to do so, the new contracts that we're signing and then trading would need to not put us over the salary cap prior to the trade.
To expand on that, another thing we can do agree not to match. For pure example. Boston wants both Harkless and Meyers. We want the white guy from Gonzaga. So we say, hey, we'll trade you Meyers for him and won't match Harkless if you sign him to an offer. Assuming both parties from Portland even want to go to Boston. It gets complicated, but easily doable
I mean, push comes to shove, we can renounce em and open up 15 mil of space in addition to the 7 or so we already have and absorb salary outright.
One example of how we actually can (and would need to) add a second player to a sign/trade deal: Let's say Cleveland wanted to pay Wade $20m/year and wants to get rid of Love, and Miami was interested in Leonard for $14m/year. We could sign/trade Leonard to Miami and add Vonleh because the Leonard signing wouldn't put us over the cap, while Miami S&T's Wade to Cleveland, and then we could bring Love's $20m salary in because even though it would now put us over the cap, our outgoing salaries would be within $5M of the incoming salaries.
OK this is where I get confused again. You keep saying we can combine the newly resigned player (i.e Meyers) and include another player (i.e Vonleh) in the trade............and i think others are saying you can't combine players in a sign and trade.
But it's for a big? Both those guys seem to fit the 76ers profile so maybe it's Noel. I'm just guessing/hoping.
Here's a list of possibilities in a trade (not FA) -Kanter -Monroe -Brolo -Noel -Vucevic -Gortat -Faried -Love -Henson
Because most people miss the aspect of "if the player is signed using capspace". Most of the time, when a player does a sign and trade, the initial signing puts that team over the cap, and they are then restricted to trading that player alone. If that initial signing does NOT put the team over the cap, additional players can be added. The restriction on adding other players to a S&T deal is part of the "can't trade a player with other players within 2 months of acquiring him" rule, but that's all about whether or not cap room is used. http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q84
Last rumor was Sullinger and I'd be totally on board with that move...Boston might take on Meyers in a sign and trade or Plumlee..Plumlee is an east coast guy who loves it back there, family and friends..I think he'd like being in the east.
