I mean look at our fucking presidential candidates. One is a crazy nutbag and the other is a shady criminal. Race relations are as strained as ever. Everyone hates each other. The middle class is shrinking. Its either you're fucking rich or you're living paycheck to paycheck. Its highly evident all news just pushes an agenda. Maybe its the access to everyone's crazy inner demons online. Dunno, everything just seems way different. Maybe its me getting older but shit seems more fucked. Doesn't even feel like a real country anymore, hard to feel patriotic.
I've honestly never really felt patriotic. America is disappointing in so many ways. We certainly aren't the greatest country in the world, like so many ignorant Americans seem to believe.
Wtf? America isnt perfect, but not feeling patriotic is unfathomable to me. So many americans are way too fucking privileged. If a war went down are ya'll just gonna netflix and chill? Will people need safe spaces?
This, this, and fucking this. El Pres: I will say media is at the center of the majority of the "us vs them" situation. They promote an agenda, fueling the embers making a huge fucking fire. But there is no question about what I'd do if some pinko commie (like Barfo!) was invading our country.
This post partly contradicts itself unintentionally. The Americans you mentioned who are all self absorbed assholes could be why some would feel unpatriotic.
Good point. It just angers me. I know the shit my grandpa went through from all the stories he has told us over the decades when he was in WW2. And it pisses me off to see people acting that way.
That pisses me off too. My gramps never talked about ww2. He could have been a cook or a guy at Pearl Harbor. Don't know. We're getting what we deserve, what we ask for now. That generation fought for the world and we've flushed it down the drain. Sucks.
Can you imagine what a hipster liberal douche would do if they were on a battlefield and just saw their best friend shot beside them?
Patriotism just doesn't make much sense to me personally. I mean I hate to sound like a hippie but why should we encourage separating people of the world with arbitrary things like where we were born? We're all pretty much the same. I'm not going to lie and say I would welcome fighting in a war, but if it came down to it, I would have no problem fighting against evil. I certainly wouldn't just be fighting "for America!!" though.
Tribalism is ingrained, that doesn't mean it's necessarily a good thing. Prejudice is also an ingrained, evolved mechanism, but we attempt to transcend that in civilized society. I don't think a very light form of patriotism (like being proud when American Olympic athletes win) is particularly bad, even if I don't really share it, but I think valuing American lives over other lives, while politically expedient, isn't a virtue.
What country do you think is the greatest country in the world? My own answer would be that we are the greatest on some measures, not at all the greatest on other measures, and that there is no universal 'greatness' scale so the question is impossible to answer. barfo
I will value american lives over other lives if im ever thrown into a war and whoever is the "other" is shooting at me.
Some of the bravest guys in war would surprise you..some of the most macho guys often end up cowards....I'm a war vet..somehow JFizz...I think you're talking about video games here, not war
