2 officers shot at Dallas Texas police protest

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  1. SlyPokerDog

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    There is public record of one but the police are investigating to make sure he didn't lie on his original application.
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Let the national broken tail light association deal with it. The NRA agrees with me that the circumstances and the appearance of what went down is disturbing. Let's see how the investigations play out - praise for justice carried out, condemn a miscarriage of justice. It's premature to say much other than the cops haven't figured out how to protect and serve as they should.

    If there is an active shooting going on, and a person carrying a weapon like the ones being used who also matches the description of the shooter, sure, detain him.

    People in Texas openly carry guns to all sorts of protests without incident. There's no 2nd amendment issue here.
     
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    There was never a description of the shooter issued by law enforcement. It was assumed that because of the type of protest it was that the shooter had to be black.

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    http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2016/07/08/3796589/dallas-misidentified-suspect/

    The Dallas Police Department and the Dallas Police Association, the largest union representing the city’s police department, both tweeted a photo during the event of a young, black suspect holding a gun. The photo was plastered across national news.

    Under Texas law, people can legally carry openly in most public places, including on the streets where the protests occurred.




    This is one of our suspects. Please help us find him! pic.twitter.com/Na5T8ZxSz6

    — Dallas Police Depart (@DallasPD) July 8, 2016
     
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    The police did what they did during the Boston marathon bombing. They looked at surveillance camera footage, cell phone pictures/movies submitted by the public, etc., and identified the bombers. The Dallas police got it wrong. There's nothing egregious about that.
     
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    The Dallas Police never released a description of the shooter like you are claiming they did.

    Here is their twitter feed - https://twitter.com/DallasPD

    "Who also matches the description of the shooter"

    He was a black man with a gun, that's what made him of interest to the police but at that time there was no description of the shooter like you are claiming there was.
     
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    The Dallas Police Department and the Dallas Police Association, the largest union representing the city’s police department, both tweeted a photo during the event of a young, black suspect holding a gun.

    The photo was plastered across national news. (And here you are denying it)
     
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    http://mashable.com/2016/07/08/dallas-police-shooting-mark-hughes-black-lives-matter/#5Ry9BUTCxaqm

    Dallas police slammed for tweeting picture of 'suspect'



    Hughes was later interviewed by KTVT and expressed his shock at seeing his picture being plastered all over the place: “I can’t believe it. I can’t believe it. The crazy thing about it is that, I was down here, I couldn’t get down to my vehicle because of the roadblock. And in hindsight, 20/20, I could have easily been shot.”
     
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    No I'm not, you are saying that photo matches a description of the shooter released by police. I'm saying very clearly that the police released the photo but never said the person matches a description of the shooter. They never released a description of the shooter like you are claiming they did.
     
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    The photo IS the description. How much more descriptive can they be?
     
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    You said if the person in the picture matches the description given by police they should detain him.

    Now you're saying the photo IS the description.

    So if a photo matches a photo that person is a suspect?!? That doesn't make any sense. What if the picture was of a white man with a gun? According to you as long as the picture matches the picture then that person is a suspect. Again, that doesn't make any sense. Print one copy of a picture, print a second copy of the same picture, check to see if the copies match, we have our suspect!



    Won't you gimme two pics,

    gimme two pics, mister

    gimme two pics for the jail door,

    gimme two pics,

    gimme two pics, mister

    and you won't see that black man no more!


    I know you love to argue about silly shit like this but come on, this is ridiculous. Isn't something about Hillary you could rant about?
     
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    I don't know why people are arguing over this, the answer is in the current events you're discussing. Have the robots with bombs stop black guys, if they comply and hand over their identification without resisting we don't blow them up with bombs.

    If you catch a black guy with gold teeth selling bootlegs outside a 7/11, send in Johnny Five (loaded with C4 of course) BOOOM

    Black guy in a car with a concealed weapon...BOOOOOOM

    The next time there is a brawl in WalMart where black guys are running to sporting goods to get a bat to brawl with.....instead of a robot with a bomb, program one of the electric scooters to drive up on them with a BOOOOM.

    Does nobody care that the first time any of us heard of the cops just blowing up some guy it is a black guy?

    How many paranoid schizophrenics are the police going to blow up now?
     
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    This whole idea that cops are going around killing black people for no reason all the time is a media fabrication. Many more white people are shot every year than Blacks, even though Blacks are involved in more crime. People's perception is based on the media and how it reports things, not on facts.

    This whole thing was set off by the Micheal Brown case, but the justice department did a through investigation and determined that the shooting was justified. Yet these morons keep repeating that baseless "hands up don't shoot" bullshit. Now every time a black person is shot they want to start a riot.
     
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    Think on it awhile Sly, I am pretty sure you can connect the dots. But if you can't, I probably can't help.
     
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    The oceans are dead - strike 1
    The NRA was silent - strike 2
    You can't even quote what I did say - strike 3

    You need a mulligan?

    The police tweeted his picture and said he was a suspect. He voluntarily gave up his gun and turned himself in.

    Yep, the cops were fine, they weren't being racist, and they violated nobody's 2nd amendment rights.

    Now you wanted the NRA to speak up about it for no good reason. If you don't get it, maybe a third grader can explain it to you. It ain't rocket science.
     
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    The reason they had that guys picture all over was because he was the ONLY KNOWN person to have an AR-type gun at the protest. His picture was already being blown up by media and social media before the Police department even got to it.

    Now, having them retract the photo and say something about the guy I can agree with. But all of the other bullshit, no, he was a legitimate suspect at the time.
     
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    That's the whole point. Have you seen first hand, or experienced these acts against blacks? In your 62 years, have you personally seen a black person gunned down and killed for no reason by cops? You trust your eyes and ears, but it isn't first hand experience, it's what you see and hear in the media. How can you not look into stats and say stats are overrated in one aspect that has a lot of intangibles (basketball), and compare it and completely disregard it in real life? How about the rates which whites are killed in comparison to Asians? Whites are killed at a higher rate than Asians, they must be profiling whites compared to Asians, right? Or the rate of men vs women? They're profiling against men? Or maybe the actions of certain groups of people has an influence on some of these stats.

    I am not defending either of these recent killings, but I do think that there is a large bias on both sides of the fence that makes people think irrationally.
     
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    Do you know the percentage of Police Officers killed by certain races? About 52% of the offenders were white, compared to 43% black. Odd because the white population is more than 5 times the black population. You're hypocritical when you state facts can be used to fit your argument, when you do the exact same thing.
     
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    You realize a debate professor would slap you with all the debate no nos you use?:cheers:
     
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    Ugh...slypokerdog is the worst debater ever. When he tries to discuss something, all that comes up is an endless stream of fallacies. But hey...I guess we can't expect much more from a dog.
     

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