I thought it wasn't good business to sign him due to how the contract was lay out. But now I really don't think he be earning his bonuses coming off the bench. What ever his bonuses was going to be. So now it is 18.5 year contract for 4 years I believe the 4 year has a option plus the trade kicker. I do like him he has improve alot hope he continue to live up to his contract. Neil said he is going bring back his RFA and so I expect him to sign Harkless next.
We'd have no cap space in the next 3 years regardless. So we had the choice of stuck with this team including Crabbe or stuck with this team without Crabbe.
I am by no means trying to belittle your opinion, because it has merit. But it's hard to totally agree unless I know who else we could have gotten who was as good, (but cheaper) as well as knowing what we would have needed to give up to get him. Because I think at this point we would have had to trade some of our other assets to get that player. I would rather have those assets AND Crabbe available just in case an opportunity for a better trade does actually occurs. I am just playing devil's advocate here.
We have Ezeli, Leonard, and Davis who can all okay center so I guarantee we would get rid of Plumlee over Harkless. There's no way we can find enough minutes for all of them right now so I'm hoping we trade him this offseason for a draft pick. Then we'd have 2 extra 1st round picks to throw into trades and all of our 1sts as well. Either that out we could package a couple to move into the late lotto on draft day 2017.
I do think either one of Plumlee/Meyers/Davis won't be here for the following yr, we have too many bigs, so lets say you can cut that by 10 mil
Philadelphia would have major interest in Crabbe and Leonard. They could use another stretch 4 and they need a starting SG. Both are great shooters who fit well next to Simmons. I think this is the type of trade Olshey is setting up for: Trading Plumlee to Team A for their 1st Then: Crabbe, Leonard, POR's 2017 1st, and Team A's 1st for Okafor. If they need to send out more salary then take expiring contracts. We'd save $24M and get Okafor. I'd even be willing to shop Okafor once we get him to see what he'd bring back.
Don't think about it that way, the other side has to think they get a good deal too. With Vuc we can have a stronger starting 5 and we pay 1 guy instead of paying 3 guys more than double. Saying Plums and Vuc are similar because of certain stats is nice, but right now we don't need a Center-PG as much as we need a guy who demands defensive attention in the paint.
Crabbe has improved every season. I'm not sure what his ceiling is, but I'm confident that he could start and be effective if that was asked of him.
Vuc just isn't worth giving up that much for though. He isn't that great offensively and he's not even as good a defender as Plumlee. Let's also not forget Vuc's USG% is about the same as CJs, he wouldn't be an 18/9 guy here, I'd wager he'd be a 14/7 type center. I just don't get the hype around the guy, would I take him if the offer was cheap though (Say some combo of Davis/Vonleh/Pat/CLE pick)? Then sure.
Crabbe will become Klay Thompson with handles, so we trade CJ, Davis and Plumlee for Boogie and McLemore, and we wipe the floor with Warrior tears.
I assume you talk of BKN, but who knows if this is going to be true going forward. We were excited about Monroe last year and despite MIL shopping him hard (allegedly) - did not seem to care this year. For the record, I really like Crabbe. Sticker shock is clear and present, but it is clear that Neil has a plan - I am sure he is more qualified to make these decisions than I am.
So did Olshey wait until the 11th hour to match to punish the Nyets for fucking with our salary structure? I'd have waited a longer.
I don't think so; he will sign for about the same as Leonard. I just hope NJ doesn't come back now with the same offer to Harkless as to Crabbe.
I think we just have to hope he is as good as last year; this is a guy with a not very long track record.
