ML can spread the floor but he not same player that draft out of college. The kid I seen in college did have a low post offense and block shot. But that not the same player when he got here on this team. He has to play center especially defense. Lambeer stretch the floor when play for Detroit but he still was there center. We can have Dame CJ ET Aminu and ML on the floor at the same time. Stotts scheme is getting back on defense he sends one guy to the offense board. Talking about spreading the floor there you go.
Whew, back. New pesonal best, took the dog around the block and back home in the time Oscar caught and shot.
Did he make the shot? That's all that matters and he makes 3-pointers at a much higher than league average percentage. BNM
He actually did. Then missed his defense assignment at the other end, and Dame was forced to reach and pick up his third personal foul. He had to leave the game and we were outscored going into the half by 8
Well, the team must have been having an off night, because all the advanced stats show that, in general, we outscore our opponents when Meyers is on the court. His +3.6 points/48 was the highest on the team. BNM
Could be because Stotts took him out of the rotation and only played him against other garbage players
Oscar was 8th on our team in real plus minus stat. 10th this year if you were to include Ezeli and Turner. Dude is amazing and was a great lottery pick
I see that he's a very polarizing player here. I personally don't love or hate him, I think he's a solid talent that could develop into a useful player but will still take time. He wasn't a great draft selection but considering who went below him there wasn't that much choice. Yes, Draymond Green was #36 and Jae Crowder went #34 but nobody had expected them to be this good back then. Otherwise you have players like Lamb, Marshall, Henson, Zeller right below him and none of them are great. Royce White went #16 and he was scared of flying.
If Meyers played for Thibs as a rookie, he'd be an incredible player right now. Thibs basically made Asik into a useful player, even a starter. Leonard has more offensive ability than Omer Asik did/does, and he's got the agility to be an even better defender. The Blazers chose to use a longer development path for Meyers, which isn't wrong. They had LMA and RoLo ahead of him, at least, and were going all in for a chance to win a championship. Leonard is on the team for the rest of his new contract, at least. Get used to it. He doesn't seem to be a bad guy. I don't see the point in rooting against him.
I'm not sure he will last 4 years. At some point we will have to trim our salary total and he could well be used as a trade asset in a league where stretch 4/5s are valued.
I think the part in bold are opposing ideas. I do agree that we'll have to trim the salary, what with Crabbe/Turner contracts taking up too much space. Meanwhile Meyers is on a relatively cap-friendly deal - especially if he continues to improve. If we were to trade Meyers it would likely be for someone (DMC) who makes substantially more than Meyers - which flies in the face of the idea of trading him to reduce team salary. With Plumlee's impending pay day looming on the horizon, and Ezeli offering more defense at the same price as Davis, I think at least one of Plumlee/Davis gets traded in a package. With Meyers/Ezeli we have offense/defense on great contracts. I like both Plumlee and Davis, but if Olshey thinks Plumlee might get a near-MAX contract next summer it's probably wiser to trade him now. And Davis, bless his heart, just isn't skilled enough to warrant playing time at this point. Unless things work out really well with Crabbe I think we package him with one of Plumlee/Davis and possibly Aminu in order to bring back a legit PF.
With Ezeli we have to remember that it's only 2 years we will have him for a good price. After 2018 he will be earning a lot more too if he plays well here. $10M is a good contract for Meyers but I think that we could package both him and Crabbe in a deal for someone top quality at some point in future and that could reduce our wage bill. Plumlee will go this year I suspect. He will get $12M+ next year and we won't have the money to give it to him with CJ also due for renewal.
Could be that someone formed an opinion of him shortly after drafting him. That person could also be stubborn and unwilling to admit maybe they weren't 100% right, and rather than doing so continues the same stance and argument as the early complaint. Lord knows it's more important to stand your ground than to be wrong.
By definition, RPM attempts to isolate a players performance from that of his better, or worse, teammates. Other advanced stats also show that Meyers gets outperformed individually by his man, but the team, as a whole, benefits from the spacing he creates. Meyers was 7th on the team in RPM (not counting Kaman due to the small sample size), but if this is your new go to stat for bashing Meyers, you must REALLY hate Dame, Turner and Crabbe. Meyers was 9th on the team in minutes played, 7th in RPM (230th of 462 players, RPM = -1.08). He just got a $41 million contract. Dame was 2nd on the team in minutes played, 5th in RPM (87th of 462 players, RPM = 1.31) and is on a $126 million (at least) contract. Using Turner's numbers from BOS, he would have been 4th on the team in minutes played and 7th in RPM, behind Meyers (280th of 462 players, RPM = -1.62) and just signed a $70 million contract. Like Leonard, Crabbe was a bench player. He was 7th on the team in minutes played and 8th in PRM (358th of 462 players, RPM = -2.40) and just signed a $75 million contract. If you're going to use RPM as an indicator of value, Meyers sure looks like a hell of a bargain. Thanks for pointing that out. Based on this stat, it sure looks like Neil fucked up and severely overpaid both Turner and Crabbe. So, why aren't you constantly bashing them the same way you do Leonard? Harkless is the interesting one. We already know what Crabbe and Leonard got. Harkless had the best RPM of the three, but barely. He was very close to Meyers in RPM (6th on the team, 224 of 462 players at -1.0). It will be interesting to see if his contract is closer to Meyers or Crabbe. As I said, I excluded Kaman from the rankings because of the small sample size (he only played 112 minutes all season - Dame played 109 minutes before November 1) and the fact that he won't be on our roster next season. Still, I seriously question any stat that says Ed Davis, Mason Plumlee and Al-Farouq Aminu are "better" than Damian Lillard. They are all good role players, but any stat that says they contribute more to the team's success than Lillard, is fundamentally flawed. As you'd likely say, it doesn't pass the "eye test". BNM
The point is being "right" on the internet. Some posters are so invested in their negativity they actually take delight in a player on their favorite team failing, just so they can eventually say, "See, I told you so!!!! I am an online god and you all suck. Yay me!!!!!". It's a really odd behavior and runs counter to the definition of a fan - someone who fanatically supports his team beyond reason. By that definition, a fan would want every player on the team to be successful and exceed all expectations, because if players perform well, it benefits the team. But, for some people, being "right" is more important than team success. They take pleasure in seeing certain players fail even though it's not in the best interest of the team they supposedly support. BNM
I've already admitted I was wrong on Leonar_. I never thought he'd be close to being a below average NBA player.
On the one hand you are arguing against negativity as being "no true fan" and then claim that fandom is "supporting your team beyond reason." I don't have a problem with those assertions, but neither has anything to do with team success.
