No I'm not saying we made a consolidation trade. I'm saying YOU want a consolidation te which is worse. You might lose two Future all stars!.
Brian Grant wanted big money, we didn't want to give him big money, so we did a sign and trade for Shawn Kemp. Bob rolled the dice. He was hoping that Kemp would get back to his old self in a winning environment. He was wrong. It is what it is. It's not like Grant wasn't a huge disappointment for his massive deal with Miami.
Hindsight is always 20/20 but Jesus Christ... We really wanted to rely on 35+ year old Sabonis and 31+ year old Dale Davis to bring us to the promise land? Man, bad move by the FO...
You don't trade someone because they "want out." Just like we didn't let Crabbe go because he wants to start. It was a bad trade. We also figured Kemp would be better with JO's minutes.
There's one major difference between this team and that team: youth. Evan Turner is our oldest player at 27 years old. Young guys want to play. That WCF team was a bunch of older dudes with a few young guys. The young guys wanted minutes, and we ultimately lost the best of them in Jermaine. We are looking at something similar with this team. We have more young players than we have minutes available. Some of these guys will be free agents next year. How much do you think Plumlee gets next year?
Man, I wonder what could have been if we either benched or traded Sabonis and rolled with O'Neal. Rasheed probably doesn't get moved.
Exactly. It was a bad trade. Depth doesn't mean you have to make bad trades. I'm for keeping all our players. Some of you want consolidation trades that could possibly lead to losing TWO Jermaine O'Neals. Hold onto our depth. We've only won two playoff series since we traded JO.
We didn't LOSE JO. We TRADED him. There's no rule saying we must trade our young talent because we have a lot of it. The cream will rise to the top and we'll be great because of it. Or none of them will be very good and it'll suck.
Jermaine hadn't shown us anything in four+ years. Dale Davis was fresh off an All-Star season with Indy. Jermaine seemed like a bigger project and less likely to help us win immediately, and our window was rapidly closing. We didn't realize that Jermaine would explode when given minutes. I don't see anyone on our bench that's going to explode with minutes. We have started Crabbe. We have started Vonleh. If they were going to explode with minutes, I think they would have done it already, but Vonleh worries me. I see a lot of potential in him. Maybe not a Jermaine, but I think he could be a very good starter.
It depends on who the trade is for always, I mean... I ain't trading any of our guys for a Dale Davis level guy. If we have a trade it's gotta be for a legit third option type player. For example if Chris Bosh didn't have his health issues... I'd hope we'd be pursuing him in a trade.
Quit being so pedantic. We LOST Jermaine because we couldn't find him minutes and he wanted out. Jermaine requested a trade and Bob honored it. He didn't need a cancer on the bench with so many good players trying to balance minutes.
Jermaine did NOT become a superstar, lol. He was an All Star a few years, yes, but choked in 2004 playoffs and that was that.
He got 12 mpg that year. Do you know for a fact that JO requested a trade and that is why we traded him? Even if he did, Bob could've kept him.
The bottom line is depth is a good thing and depth doesn't lead to losing players. Bad trades do. Let's hold onto these guys and play the best ones. Plus, injuries happen.
