http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives...in_night_spots/<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>This past week, the NBA ordered its security forces in all 29 cities to come up with a list of clubs and other night spots that should be made off-limits to players.The shooting death of Darrent Williams is a motivating factor in the directive.Once the clubs are identified, with the help of local law enforcement, the league will send a directive to teams mandating that players avoid those spots or be subject to a substantial fine.</div>Can he even do this? Ban players from going to certain night spots? Why? Because of what happened to Darrent Williams? Don't get me wrong, that's horrible, and I feel so bad for the kid. But stuff like that could happen at friggen Wal Mart. Stern is getting completely out of hand. Controlling the calls, whatever. The ball without asking? Whatever. Banning movement during the National Anthem, whatever. Now trying to hinder their night fun... off the court, in their free time, as grown men? Give me a break.
LMAO I was actually laughing out loud when I just read that. Stern is acting like these players are little kids lol not grown adults. Like CB32 already said, is he even alowed to say that NBA players can' go to certain clubs or night spots?
Come on, it might be the NBA, but its there job. This is only for the protection of the league and its players. And im sick of people saying its just Stern...theres a whole damn staff who does this. I kindve like the rule.
LOL. Too bad Stephen Jackson left Indy so we don't have to worry about that no more. The Warriors are in trouble.
I can't believe this. It is a nice thought, but Stern isn't the player's father. He has no right to say what the players can and can't do in this sense. Now, if a player signs with a team and in the contract, they make a certain place off limits, or if a coach decides that players can't go to a certain place at a certain time, then whatever. But these are full grown men. Stern doesn't need to hold their hands and walk them across the street everywhere. What should Stern do? Like I said, this is a nice thought. Stern should do exactly what is posted, but after the list is made and sent out to players, that is it. He shouldn't be able to keep players from going to where they want, he can however warn them about places. But what he is doing is out of hand.
He wants his players to be maybe, ok I can understand that but he doesn't or shouldn't have the power to control these players lives like that, they're grown men the last time I checked. And like the previous guy said, this could happen at Wal Mart or riding down the street in their car. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Banning movement during the National Anthem, whatever.</div> Haha.
yes they do have the power to do this. The NBA is a job place....a very entertaining and extremely high paying job....but its a job for these players. If your job requires you not to go to certain clubs for protection, you have to follow those rules or quit.
Oh, so just because they make a lot of money the NBA can control their life? And I could see if this was agreed upon before players signing contracts or whatever but it wasn't, I'm for once tired of Stern trying to control everything these players do. Soon they're going to have to call Stern to have permission to leave their house.
once again...Stern wasnt the only one coming up with this...theres an entire comission. NFL has thought about this with motorcycles.
I really don't see the big deal with Stern doing this. In fact, I like this move by Stern. All he is doing is trying to ensure the safety of the players, and to make sure the players don't get into any trouble (I.e. Stephen Jackson).It isn't as if he's prohibiting the players from going out at night or establishing some sort of league-wide curfew (curfews vary from one team to another because they are team policy), rather he's just trying to prevent the players from going to certain spots that have been deemed dangerous, and that may put their lives and their reputations in risk.Would you want LeBron James going to a club and getting shot at? Nope. Dwyane Wade? Carmelo Anthony? Dirk? Kobe? Nash? AI? Arenas? Pierce? Nope... I sure as hell wouldn't.Yes, this type of stuff can happen at Wal Mart or whatever, but do you actually think most of these NBA players go shopping themselves? Nope, they have people who go buy their groceries, etc. When they go out at night most of them usually have their entourages and security guards, and more often than not that is what escalates certain situations. Most of the time a player is involved in some sort of incident at a night club you hear/read that somebody at the club had a problem with a player's security team or entourage, not necessarily the player themselves.I know a lot of people here have something against Stern and have disliked most of his moves, criticizing him for not necessarily taking the players into consideration before making rule changes or implementing policies, etc., but this is something that he is doing that will help ensure their safety, so what is the big deal?Oh no! The players can't go to [insert night club name here]! How horrible! Well, first of all the players shouldn't even be out at night clubs during the season because most teams prohibit them from being out past a certain hour, especially on the road (aside from special occasions such as birthdays, etc.). It's not that big of a deal.Like others have already stated, the NBA does have the power to do this. The NBA is a organization that governs over the teams that employ the NBA players. This is totally within the realm of the NBA's power, because even if the players union tries to take this to court the NBA will win the battle because their key reason for this is to ensure the safety of their players, not to prevent them from having fun. If the players don't like it, they can quit playing basketball and go get a regular 9-5 job. Come on, these guys get paid millions of dollars to essentially throw a ball into a circle... stop treating them like their babies. Playing in the NBA is a privilege, not a right.
I think this is a pretty good move imo. Basketball players should not be out clubbing late into the night during the season. All he's doing is looking into the safety of the players.
This shouldnt be a rule coming from Stern. If the coaches of the team say that the players can't go to night clubs, then that is their right as coaches, but Stern has NO say in this. I Know that he is just trying to protect the NBA players from getting shot or what not, but he has no say in how the players should live their lives outside of the court. He is wrong here...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ballerman2112 @ Jan 21 2007, 09:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>This shouldnt be a rule coming from Stern. If the coaches of the team say that the players can't go to night clubs, then that is their right as coaches, but Stern has NO say in this. I Know that he is just trying to protect the NBA players from getting shot or what not, but he has no say in how the players should live their lives outside of the court. He is wrong here...</div>Just curious, but why would it be alright for the coaches to prohibit their players from going to night clubs, etc., and wrong for the NBA commissioner to do the same?Also, this is just a general comment that I think some people seem to be missing: this effort by Stern is to prohibit players from going to places deemed dangerous for players to attend at night, and he is not necessarily saying, "the players can't go out at night."
Because the coach is who run's the team. He has a more personal relationship with the players and he should be telling them what to do. The owner would have a say in this as well....Well, arent all clubs considered "dangerous"? What makes one club different than the other? You cant permit players from going to night clubs in THEIR free time. Stern has no right what so ever to do that....
What NBA players do outside of the gym should be left alone unless it's criminal or reckless. This is crossing the line. I don't know what he's thinking with this, sure he's looking out for players (aka his cash cows) safety but like what was said above, these are grown men who can take care of themselves.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ballerman2112 @ Jan 21 2007, 09:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Because the coach is who run's the team. He has a more personal relationship with the players and he should be telling them what to do. The owner would have a say in this as well....Well, arent all clubs considered "dangerous"? What makes one club different than the other? You cant permit players from going to night clubs in THEIR free time. Stern has no right what so ever to do that....</div>If we give the coach permission to prohibit players from going to clubs, etc., because he runs the team (and the same goes for the owner), then why should we not allow the commissioner of the NBA to do the same considering he runs the league and is theoretically in charge of the owners (heads the committee or whatever)?Well, that's for him and his people to decide. Obviously they haven't figured everything out yet, but there are clubs that have had a history of violent incidences, whereas other clubs do not. Every club differs in that aspect, and I'm sure they will take that into account when they make up the list of "banned" night spots.And yes he does have the right to do it... it's just like any other job. If you work for a big corporation, and your boss decides he doesn't want any of his employees engaging in what he considers to be dangerous activities, he has the right to implement that rule. Same thing goes here, in my opinion. Not to mention that there is nothing in the CBA that explicitly says he cannot do it, and nothing that says he can. In that case it all depends on which side has the better argument if this matter is taken to court (which is a long way away, in my opinion, if it even happens), and I think Stern's side would win it.
The owners of the team's are who pay the players. It is THEIR right, not the commisioners, to tell the players what they can do off the court. They are the ones giving them the money, and the players are playing for the owners, not the comissioner. And how do you know that owners of big corporations can tell their employees not to do something like going out to a night club. As long as it doesn't affect them at work, the owners shouldnt have any right in telling the employees what to do outside of work, or in the players case, the games. It is their own life, and they should be able to live how they want to. Now, if they by some chance get shot at a night club, it is their responsibility, not the owners or the commisioners. The players are going there at their own risk. They arent on the job while they are there, so the commisioner should have no say in what goes on in their personal life. Even if it did affect the players play or something to that sort, its not Stern that would do something about it, it would be the coach or owner.
