Trump supporters, what would he have to say before you would not vote for him?

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  1. Bandwagonfansince77

    Bandwagonfansince77 Active Member

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    I am curious what sort of comment would convince you that he is unworthy of the office.

    The two candidates are basically interviewing for the job over a very extended time frame, right? The things that Trump says would make me feel uncomfortable hiring him at Walmart let alone a job as critical as the president.

    After his series of self-inflicted wounds lately I have become curious as to how supporters see these gaffes which would have doomed any candidate of the past.

    Is it just Hillary hate or does he really impress you as a candidate? What would it take to finally give up on him? I am desperately trying to understand.

    Thanks, guys.
     
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    That would do it for me. Lol
     
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    It seems that the vast majority of his appeal is his departure from the establishment, so that to which you refer as "self-inflicted wounds" or "gaffes", Trump supporters see as further evidence of his superiority to other candidates, because they further illustrate his separation from politics as usual.

    I suspect that in order to lose support from his most ardent followers, he would have to disavow the aspects of his campaign that have appealed to the majority of his followers (immigration control, disdain of special interests, irrational nationalism).
     
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  5. blue32

    blue32 Who wants a mustache ride?

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    This pretty much hits the nail on the head for me.

    I appreciate his "I give no fucks" attitude. THAT is refreshing in an America where everyone is being 'pussified' with all the PC and SJW bullshit. I want a strong commander in chief, someone to flex American muscle and not take shit. This country needs a damn leader and not a punching bag figurehead.

    We also need to get rid of the political 'norm' that has festered for decades in the Oval Office and have done nothing to propel this country other than to further divide its people. The political norm that would rather give money to terrorist nations to support their pockets than invest money into the nation they are governing.
     
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    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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    "Hilliary has dropped out of the race."
     
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    I am also curious. I see what Platypus is saying. But in a job interview you don't just say whatever pops into your head. And a president should not say whatever pops into his/her head. A president should not repeat vicious unfounded rumors prefaced with "some people are saying..." A president should not throw temper tantrums and insist on having the last word like an overgrown 4-year-old. A president should not insult and insult and insult and then say "oh, just kidding". That is schoolyard behavior. A president should not say things that are unquestionably factually untrue and insist they are. Not spin, flat out provably false. Crazily, or maybe not so, nearly half of Trump supporters now claim they have seen the "video" of money being unloaded in Iran, a video that does not exist.

    He may be entertaining but entertainment is not presidential. Otherwise we'd vote for Kim Kardashian.
     
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    blue32 Who wants a mustache ride?

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    Why does he have to conform to your idea of what a President should do? What makes what you say "Presidential" or becoming of a President?

    Just curious honestly.
     
  9. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Hiliar is so crooked we have no idea what new scandals are going to arise between now and the election. Yesterday and today, new emails have come out that expose what looks like a pay for play (quid pro quo) involving a big time (crooked) Clinton Foundation donor.

    Terrorist attacks would also hurt her chances. I wouldn't hope for those.

    I think there's potentially a huge October Surprise against her. WikiLeaks or something like that.

    There are also the debates. Trump basically ran away with the republican nomination debating against a slew of governors and legislators with superior chops. It seems that the more people see of him, the more popular he gets. He got plenty of airplay during the primaries - the news channels would show him speaking at his events, for a considerable amount of time. Lately, they're taking statements he's made out of context and blowing them out of proportion and not giving him the chance to be heard. They're not going to be able to prevent him from being heard during the debates.

    Meanwhile, Gary Johnson is moving up in the polls. 9% last one I saw.
     
  10. HailBlazers

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    I appreciate it as well. What I don't appreciate is that not only does he not take shit, but he shits on people wherever he goes. Listen to this interview:

    "The Making of Donald Trump": David Cay Johnston on Trump's Ties to the Mob & Drug Traffickers
     
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    It seems to me that there are a whole lot of people out there that feel the same way that you do. The problem, as I see it, is that I think Trump is just kind of like a meme for expressing pissed-off-ness. Illegal immigrants? Trot out Trump saying any one of a thousand different things on the topic and the pissed-off-ness has been stated. Never mind that he has absolutely no idea about how to handle the deportation of 11-12 million people, the costs associated with it (both economic and social), whether building a wall is a practical solution or would be effective, whether he could actually get anything through Congress on the subject, etc., etc., etc. Same thing on a hundred other topics. It's hard work figuring out rational public policy, selling it to Congress and the American people, and handling the millions of details associated with it. The Donald doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who can do any of that. He's just a blowhard meme for pissed-off-ness.

    Just my humble opinion, of course.
     
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    He's the real life embodiment of the caricature of "get off my lawn" guy.
     
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    blue32 Who wants a mustache ride?

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    Haha.. So am I! get off my lawn!
     
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    GEE, A POLITICIAN WHO DOESN'T KEEP HIS POLITICAL PROMISES, WHAT A SCUM
     
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    I'm not dinging him for not keeping political promises. I'm dinging him for not having a clue. So far, other than one canned talk on the economy, all we've heard is: "You either have a country or you don't." "We're not winning." "Our leaders are stupid." "We don't make good deals." Those aren't policy statements. They're just jerking off your base so they'll keep loving you.
     
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    I don't know what you all are bitching about! He hasn't said anything to piss me off. Maybe a cringe or two but no big deal.

    But Holy hell, did you see the dad of the mass murderer of Orlando, Mateen sitting front and center in Hillary's rally?
    What the fuck message was that supposes to be? Vote for me, I love Muslims no matter what?

    Now if Trump sent that message, I am done.
     
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    He released an economic plan 2 days ago.
     
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    No, not at all. In fact, they've denounced his presence. He was uninvited.

    Plenty of reasons not to vote for Hilary, but that's not one of them.
     

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