Teams screwed down the road.

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  1. ballerman2112

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigMo763 @ Jan 23 2007, 11:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>San Antonio anybody? They are old, and you can already see that Dallas, and possibly Phoenix, has passed them up. They seriously need to bring in some young blood onto that team (other than Parker), because unless they start doing it now they will seriously be screwed sooner rather than later.</div>They are an old team, and they definitely need to bring in young talent, but they are going to be VERY good in 2 seasons IMO. After next season, the Spurs are only going to have Tim Duncan, Tony Parker, and Manu Ginobili under contract. They are going to have the cap room to go out and sign another big named player, and im pretty sure that it is going to be a young player. Possibly a big center that has a decent future ahead of him, or a good SF. A good SF would be alot easier to get though. After next season, Duncan will still be getting 17-19 and 10 a game, and Ginobili I think will still be the same player. Parker in a few seasons will obviously better, and I am hoping that he will have a better jumpshot by then. After about 4 seasons or so, the Spurs will probably be in some big trouble unless they get lucky in a draft again though.
     
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    okay Memphis ISNT. We have Kyle Lowry, Alexander Johnson, Hakim Warrick, Rudy Gay. We going to have one lotto pick this year, maybe two if we can get Knicks from Chicago for Gasol. Were going to have 10+million in cap this offseason for a major free agent. So Memphis ISNT screwed, actually they are set up for a extremely bright future. Just cause your not good this season doesn't make you screwed, for teams like Memphis and 76ers, they probably have more of the brighter futures in the NBA.I also dont think Phoenix is screwed either. They have Boris Diaw, Barbosa and one player I think is going to be very good...Marcus Banks to play PG when Nash is gone. And yes, Boris Diaw CAN play PG in NBA, he did before he got to the Suns.One team that IS screwed IMO is Miami. Dorell Wright and D Wade are the only good young players. They are going to have to have plenty of good trades and/or good drafts/free agent signings to stay afloat in the future.
     
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    Yeah, Boris played the PG spot before he came to the Suns and look how he did. He is obviously better at playing a SF or PF position. I just thought I would comment on that. I think that Phoenix has a pretty damn good future. Amare is really young too I think...I dont think that Miami is screwed at all. When you have a player like Wade on your team, you are never screwed. Once Shaq retires, they are going to have a hell of alot of cap room so you know they will sign somebody good with it. They will be fine....
     
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    you say that, but they havent been playing well(they have had a few nice games lately), and they have Wade. I just Boris just didnt get PT, and the Hawks buried him. He can still play PG if he need to, even though he probably feels best at SF. But what im saying is they have very solid PGs without Nash anyways.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ballerman2112 @ Jan 24 2007, 12:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I dont think that Miami is screwed at all. When you have a player like Wade on your team, you are never screwed. Once Shaq retires, they are going to have a hell of alot of cap room so you know they will sign somebody good with it. They will be fine....</div>Bingo. Took the word right out of my mouth. Everyone who's saying Miami will be screwed because we have a bunch of old player needs to think a little harder. Like Ballerman said any time you have a superstar caliber player like Wade, you really are never screwed unless you have extremely stupid management like in Minnesota. Then you factor in Wright and Haslem, there's two other young promising players. Zo and GP will out after this year we know what, but once Shaq's contract is up, we'll be in very good shape to land a bigtime free agent or two. The worst year for us though will probably be Shaq's last year of his contract, but like I said after that we should be fine.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Jan 23 2007, 05:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Golden State is. The addition of Jackson is going to really hurt them and they loose size and interior defense by having harrington on the block. The only bright spots for them are Bierdnes (sp), Ellis, and Baron.</div>Are you insane? Harrington is better than murphy, Jackson is better than Dunleavy, Jasikevicius is better than McLeod, and Diogu wasn't going to play for us. We're also the second youngest team in the league and one of the deepest. To say we're screwed down the road when we're young, improving, and improving our cap is stupid.EDIT: of course you're insane, you're Pacers Fan Forever
     
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    I like what the bulls did with hinrich giving him more up front and having the amount decrease each year. They did that with Ben Wallace too. Paxson's smart. I always do Front contracts when I can in 2k7 so I have more to sign FA in the future.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>you say that, but they havent been playing well(they have had a few nice games lately), and they have Wade. I just Boris just didnt get PT, and the Hawks buried him. He can still play PG if he need to, even though he probably feels best at SF. But what im saying is they have very solid PGs without Nash anyways.</div>Boris Diaw can play point guard, but he can't do it very well. It has nothing to do with how many minutes he played, he logged decent minutes when he was with Atlanta. I watched a lot of Hawk games during Diaw's first two seasons in the league and he never looked comfortable playing in the back court. Mike D'Antoni is a genius for sliding him into the front court where Diaw excels.
     
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    Yeah, Diaw's a good passer and stuff for a big man, but I wouldn't trust him @ guard. He's a good front court ball circulator. Suns are just amazing with ball movement. That's why few people can beat us.
     
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    Well I am gonna try to make a case for a team that hasn't been mentioned. The Sonics. Ray Allen is 31 and seemingly a constant among trade rumors. Lewis is also always mentioned in trade rumors and may decide to opt out after this season. Now you are probably thinking I am crazy because they have some young guys. But although Ridnour signed an extension he is moody and never seems happy with his role. Then there is Swift, Sene, and Petro. Why do they have 3 young bigs? Because they are all role players. So come 3-5 years from now I just don't see a team with a one-two punch of (possibly) Ridnour and Chris Wilcox doing, well anything. Hey who knows maybe Nick Collison is waiting to break out....ha. Don't think I forgot Mickael Gelabale, it's just well, who cares. I think this team is in trouble. They have no idenity. Just my case for the Sonics being it trouble.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (playaofthegame @ Jan 23 2007, 08:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Miami...they honestly don't have a very deep roster of younginsthey're mainly washed up old players like Shaq, Posey, Antoine, Zo, GPeven though some like Zo and GP are still playin nice...they'll be gone soonthey don't really have any young nice dudes except for D Wade and Udonis Haslembut I mean Wade is enough to build around so they probably arent "screwed" like the Pistons will be</div>AGREED.But my pick is the Spurs. The spurs have 9 players over the age of 30. Manu and TD getting older does not help them that much but IMO TD is ageless and will continue playing the way he is playing now until he retires. Tony Parker will be the center of this team in a few years.
     
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    I never said was better at PG than at SF, all I said was hes capable of playing there, and this topic is besides the point.
     
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    Dude how about the Wizards....They arent screwed by age they are screwed by mid age players that suck...Caron and Agent 0 and Jamison are are this teams talent. Jamison is getting older and older, so he will be in the decline of his career soon. And seriously everyone else on this team is mediocre role players. They need a big man that can score! Thomas and Haywood are both pretty terrible offensively. Agent 0 will never win a title because he has only one guy that can help him. He is going to be another AI....The only chance he has of winning a title is to be traded. Who knows their mediocre middle aged class of jarvis hayes, stevenson, haywood, daniels, thomas, and songilla may surprise me.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pinoy Balla @ Jan 24 2007, 02:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>AGREED.But my pick is the Spurs. The spurs have 9 players over the age of 30. Manu and TD getting older does not help them that much but IMO TD is ageless and will continue playing the way he is playing now until he retires. Tony Parker will be the center of this team in a few years.</div>If you have watched Manu play as of late, he looks just as good as he did the year he was an All-Star. He just had a down year last year because of his injury. He will still be a good player in 4 years or so IMO. Also, I said this earlier, but I want to say it again in case you didnt see it. The Spurs are only going to have Tony, Tim, and Manu under contract after next season, so they will have alot of cap room to go sign a another good player. Bruce will be retiring after next season IMO, so I think that they are going to go get a SF with that cap room. And hopefully when Ian Mahinmi comes over, he can do something for us. I dont really know anything about the guy though.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ballerman2112 @ Jan 24 2007, 04:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If you have watched Manu play as of late, he looks just as good as he did the year he was an All-Star. He just had a down year last year because of his injury. He will still be a good player in 4 years or so IMO. Also, I said this earlier, but I want to say it again in case you didnt see it. The Spurs are only going to have Tony, Tim, and Manu under contract after next season, so they will have alot of cap room to go sign a another good player. Bruce will be retiring after next season IMO, so I think that they are going to go get a SF with that cap room. And hopefully when Ian Mahinmi comes over, he can do something for us. I dont really know anything about the guy though.</div>All good points. Here's another one. The Spurs management is great. They pick great role players late in the 1st and 2nd rounds, and when they do have an offseason, they strike gold. They have had 2 top 10 picks since 1987. Those two picks were David Robinson and Tim Duncan. I feel if they do have one of those offseasons where they take a huge dive in the standings, they will strike gold with another franchise changing players like Duncan or Robinson. I'm really not worried about the Spurs dipping below .500 for a few seasons like the Bulls, Knicks, Suns, TrailBlazers, etc have in the last 5-10 years.
     

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