Politics Emails reveal how foundation donors got access to Clinton and her close aides at State Dept.

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  1. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    The country's best hope is for both to withdraw and have a do over
     
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  3. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Obama was out on the stump saying he killed Bin Laden and destroyed al Qaeda. So an al Qaeda attack made him look like a fool.

    So they got caught lying. The proof is the email, yessiree. They did lie, and for the reasons the links show.

    W wasn't running around spiking the football after 9/11.

    Videos of Hiliar having coughing fits do prove she has coughing fits. Beyond that, who knows.
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    You're right about #1. Things can get worse - elect Hiliar and we'll find out.

    4) The government is bought and paid for. It's OK for government to legislate in ways that foster business, which is a very different thing. Of course electing the person promising the 3rd Obama term isn't promising change or likely to be the agent of change.

    5) The government is too big to be effective and most of the things it tries to do. It's not being an anarchist to want a cost efficient government that doesn't suck up so much of the economy to provide so little.
     
  5. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    The gift that just keeps giving.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-family-foundation-despite-pledge-not-to.html

    Hillary Clinton KNEW her aides were working with family foundation despite her pledge not to – and she even hosted dinner at her home for the charity when in office
    • Clinton's closest State Department aides were closely involved in projects with Clinton Foundation, according to emails released Tuesday
    • This was despite ethics agreements intended to create a firewall between Clinton's office and family's foundation
    • Emails released by Citizens United show aides Huma Abedin and Cheryl Mills were in regular contact with foundation officials
    • Topics of correspondence ranged from programming at Clinton Global Initiative events to Bill Clinton's public remarks
    • Clinton signed ethics agreement saying she wouldn't be personally involved in state department matters related to foundation
    • But State Department said her closet staffers were bound by no such restrictions
    Hillary Clinton's closest State Department aides were closely involved in coordinating events, talking points, and projects with the Clinton Foundation, according to emails, despite ethics agreements that were intended to create a firewall between Clinton's office and her family's foundation.

    Emails released by the watchdog group Citizens United on Tuesday show Clinton aides Huma Abedin and Cheryl Mills were in regular contact with foundation officials on topics ranging from the programming at Clinton Global Initiative events to Bill Clinton's public remarks.
     
  6. blue32

    blue32 Who wants a mustache ride?

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    What does Jersey development deals have anything to do with being a POTUS? Was there something your eluding too? Was he found guilty of criminal action? I'm not following here.

    Regarding the university... Is that all? Like are you really going to hold that in the same light as what Hillary has been lying about her entire time in Government office? She got people killed and then lied to their families...
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    How hard is it to draw the line that connects the dots here? He said he hopes Trump can clean up the system and its endemic corruption, I said Trump has been dealing with Jersey politicians to get real estate development deals done for decades. I'd call it an open secret at this point that you gotta grease a lot of palms and deal with a lot of shady motherfuckers with mafia ties to get anything done in that cesspool. Ergo, I wouldn't expect Trump to be the guy to clean up anything.

    As for Hillary and Trump, they are equally corrupt and corruptible in my opinion and I'm not voting for either.
     
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    blue32 Who wants a mustache ride?

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    No real fact. So you're just assuming. Got it.

    Just trying to figure out your stance on it.
     
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    Jersey has one of the most corrupt governments in the nation.

    ABSCAM
    McGreevey resignation over being gay (he shouldn't have lied)
    2009, 44 people indicted for taking bribes to allow building permits
    Mayor Frank Hague of Jersey City retired a multimillionaire on a mayor's salary due to bribes he accepted (but couldn't be proven)
    Senator Robert Menendez indicted on 14 criminal corruption counts in April 2016
    Senator Robert Toricelli withdrew from his reelection over illegal campaign donations, and was censured by the senate ethics committee for it
    Boardwalk Empire is based on a true story
    Trenton mayor Tony Mac was found guilty in 2014 of taking bribes in exchange for selling city property below market
    Mayor William Musto of Union City and state senator was convicted of racketeering and taking a bribe

    and plenty more

    #democraticpartymachine
     
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    That is right where we are headed! Clintons will open the gates and sell what ever else they can including weapons to those we the people are against.
    Wake up and see the path that we are following.
     
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    Would maybe agree, but who is POTUS in the mean time? Obama, can not wait till he is gone. What a failure he has become.
     
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    Powerful ad.

     
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    Agree with your first line, but I note you left out Bridgegate and, more relevantly, Christie forgiving Trump's tax debt.

    New Jersey's problems are not limited to one party.

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    RRRRRRRREEEEEEEAAAAAACH

    Talk about your wishful thinking.

    What bribes were involved in Bridgegate?

    Trump's debt forgiveness, if there was such a thing, isn't corruption.
     
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    what bribes were involved in the 2nd item in your list?

    How do you know that? Certainly it has the appearance of corruption, and that's your standard for conviction, it seems.

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    He appointed Golan Cipel to run the state's homeland security department, in exchange for sexual favors. Those favors never came to be and McGreevy came out of the closet after he was sued for sexual harassment. He was expecting a bribe (sexual favors).


    If you can prove Trump paid Christie for the debt forgiveness, then you might be onto something.
     
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    That's a rather fascinating interpretation.

    And if you can prove that Clinton did anything worthy of charges, then you might be onto something. But you can't and you aren't. So sad, but don't worry. Now you have an excuse to be angry for another eight years!

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    You can't handle the truth.

    It's already been proven Clinton did things worthy of charges. There are numerous prosecutors who would have charged her, regardless of the FBI's non-binding recommendations.
     
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    Sorry, but no. Internet prosecutors don't count.

    Keep trying though. Maybe another 20 years and another $20 million spent on investigations will turn something up.

    Or you could just declare her a witch and burn her at the stake.

    barfo
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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