A trade I suggested in another forum

This

 

For real though, the number one rule in a consolation trade is the team consolidating (likely us) needs to receive the best player/asset in the trade.

But one thing I don't understand is why everyone thinks we need to consolidate two big men for one big man. There's no big men that are are attainable and enough of an upgrade to make sense via consolidation. I would look at all positions, as I would be open to consolidating Harkless and a center for a great wing.

Yes, I know we're loaded at the wing, but I think we have the minutes available to upgrade Harkless.

Something like;
NOP Gets: Harkless and Plumlee
We Get: Jrue Holiday and the Right to Swap 2018 1sts (top 6 or whatever protection)

Of course, you only do that trade if Holiday is open to playing 26 minutes off the bench for a contender and would give you opportunity to resign him this summer.

Lillard (35) / Holiday (13)
McCollum (34) / Holiday (14)
Turner (23) / Crabbe (25)
Aminu (30) / Davis (16) / Turner (2)
Ezeli (22) /Leonard (20) / Davis (6)

-Holiday gets 27min, Turner and Crabbe get 25min. That's enough to make something like that work, and we'd have the best 6th, 7th, and 8th men in the league. Even if it's a different player than Holiday (as it might be too risky with his contract expiring, or NOP might not want to give him up), there's some deals for wing players out there that make sense for a consolidation trade.

 

This looks good, except, and very minor, No way Turner gets minutes at the four with Vonleh on the roster. Vonleh will take those 2 minutes and be a better option at the 4 in almost all instances. Turner would get worked at the 4 spot by most PFs im thinking.

 

The very few minutes he'd get there would be when other teams go small (ex. DAL playing Barnes at the 4). It doesn't matter though. The point I'm making is we could consolidate for a wing and still find enough minutes for everyone.

 

Which, in my opinion, is still our biggest weakness even with the addition of Turner.
A true SF/PF that plays on the outside with a good outside shot. We don't have one.

 

Aminu is. Not many teams have one.

 

Outside shot is fairly suspect though. He improved big time last year, but still isn't considered an outside threat is he? Plus his dribbling sucks.

 

Look through the league depth charts. There is a dearth of good SF in the league who have a good outside shot, can dribble, pass, and also play small ball PF.

The only ones that can do that are the ***ALL NBA*** players like LeBron, Durant, and George.

Aminu has his limitations, but he's better than most.

 

Are there pill bugs and worms under that rock? MO is a SF.

 

Harkless goes nowhere!

 

I like seeing how things pan out by the trade deadline...when really talented players get sick of playing with or for assholes and you can decide to trade a big for a weak spot wherever it is...Neil likes asset accumulation and we're deep enough to tempt some teams after January who need to do a trade...until then we can just enjoy being deep

 

Nurkic would be one of my targets. The Nuggets are going to find out that neither Nurkic or Jokic are PFs - even in spurts.

Olynyk would be a great fit here in this system.

Whomever Neil targets he has to consolidate this logjam at PF and C.

 

Funny, that sounds eerily similar to when I told MS. HCP "He's not home yet... until then, we can just enjoy being deep."

 

For a second, I thought you were going to quote Fez instead of river: "Until then, we can just enjoy consolidate this logjam..."

 

Stupid trade idea. We don't need a short-armed T-Rex Center. Trade doesn't work anyway.

Secondly, will BonesJones please please please stop suggesting that Evan Turner will be playing positions other than SF and b/u PG!!!!!! That's where he will play. You keep ignoring his history. Please stop! He's not going to be playing b/u minutes at SG (that'll be Crabbe) nor b/u PF (that'll be Vonleh and Leonard and Davis). It WILL be b/u PG and some starting SF.

 

The trade I suggested is more stupid than Turner (a player with suspicious handles) playing backup PG? Really?

 

Well, considering this trade.... and the fact that you've put players in the wrong positions....

Yeah.

 

You know me long enough to know that I'm almost never wrong

 

I really hope you are wrong with the SG projection. History (or at least rumor) suggests he played better at SG last year that at SF. He has better handles than Crabbe and since AC has a longer wingspan than ET (Over 3 inches) I would prefer he and Harkless get the minutes at SF.