OT Anthem Politics

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Might as well just burn the money instead.

 

Why LOL? If he gave money to some bullshit symbolism-over-substance "charity," then he deserves criticism, not credit.

 

So I thought Stephen A was gonna rage about Kaep not starting?

 

True question: is there a statement somewhere that I've missed where Kaepernick says that this specific incident is the reason he's protesting, or is this just an example of incidents that he's T'd off about?

I've seen the video and I'm not about to make apologies for the officer. No matter what the provocation was, it should have been handled without the violence. That said, read this CBS report on the story as to why charges weren't brought.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/no-crim...o-dragged-south-carolina-high-school-student/

It's interesting that the prosecutor says that the fact that the police chief fired the officer before the investigation was complete, and that the Justice Department cut a deal to drop its investigation in exchange for additional training being provided served to work against the officer being indicted. I think he's saying that the fact that the police department chose to handle discipline by firing Fields rather than arresting him, and the fact that the Justice Dept. resolution implies that the officer may not have been adequately trained works against being able to prosecute him. When combined with witness statements that it wasn't as bad as it looked in the video and that Fields didn't intentionally throw her, but lost his grip, there likely wasn't a reasonable chance that the officer would have been convicted.

I get why Kaepernick is pissed about so many incidents having happened in past few years where blacks are shot or injured at the hands of police and no charges are ever brought. But the underlying principles of justice cut both ways for civilians and cops. Just because it looks like an incident like this is blatant racism doesn't mean that it was. And just because there's video doesn't mean that there's sufficient evidence to successfully prosecute a case. Does that mean that there's something inherently wrong with our system of justice or does it mean that we're right and want to make damned sure that we only convict when there's proof of a crime beyond a reasonable doubt? I respect Kaep's right to protest and throw a spotlight on perceived injustice, but I think that he's missing the mark if he's relying on this specific case to illustrate that injustice.

 

If he's to be given credit for donating to a charity, it should be a legitimate charity. It's a valid point to raise, which is why I didn't understand your "lol."

Which charities he decides to donate to are his prerogative. Giving credit for his donations only if those charities are credible is his prerogative.

 

Well said. Another person who can wait to see both sides of a story before rushing to judgment.

 

I said "bullshit" charities, not "fake" charities. There are tons of charities that are shady at best. Tons of charities that spend more money on administration than they do on the causes they claim to represent. And there are charities that raise money for bullshit causes. All I'm saying (and what I believe MM was saying) is that the credibility of his chosen charity factors into whether he deserves credit.

 

You are all encouraged to donate to the United NateBishop Pizza Fund.

 

Wook has been donating to the "beer" charity for decades!

 

Anyone mad at cops because of tickets could always try slowing down. How is it i havent been pulled over since i started setting cruise control to the speed limit? Same with war on drugs, sure, i think they should do away with it but a good way not to get arrested for drugs is not doing them or having them on your person.

 

He's kept the Coors Brewing Company in business. I don't know how they are able to sell the piss water known as Coors light, but they do.

 

My grandmother had a Taurus that she said the transmission was acting up. I picked it up after work one Friday to keep overnight and look at it the next day. I drove it home and was about 20 feet from a red light when the light turned green. I hit the gas but the car stumbled and didn't take off very well. The light turned yellow while I was in the intersection. It was later at night so there wasn't any traffic.

I get pulled over by a pig and get the old "what's the hurry?"

I said I wasn't in a hurry and tried to explain what happened. He cut me off as he clearly didn't want an answer.

 

I said pig because he was an asshole. I don't think all cops are bad but I'd have worn those socks proudly the next day.

 

I'm with you. I had one a week ago. First time in forever and it tasted like water, lightly flavored with beer. Now I get how Wook can put so much of it away...........

 

Bottom line he assaulted a 15 year old kid. We have video evidence to show that the force being applied was excessive at best. A firing is the least that should have happened.

And why would you think he's relying on this case only? Kap had guns unnecessarily drawn on him before he ever took an NFL snap.

What makes no sense to me is the constant explaining of why this is ok... It's not. There's no reason to do this to a kid. CALL HER PARENTS.

 

Damn, sometimes I think that it's impossible to communicate what you're actually trying to say on these forums. If we were sitting down having a beer sometime it sure would be a lot easier.

I asked you a question because you said "Ben Fields not being charged is why Kaepernick protests." I was trying to find out if there was something he had said about that incident in particular. Obviously, from your response, that wasn't what you meant at all.

As to your second point, I didn't try to explain the incident away at all. In fact I said, "No matter what the provocation was, it should have been handled without the violence." What I was trying to point to is that these things are always complicated when it comes to charging and prosecuting someone. There are reasons stated in the CBS report that illustrate that.