OT Anthem Politics

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  1. HomerLovesKoolAid

    HomerLovesKoolAid I have a well-known member.

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    Darn, should have capitalized Nutter Butters.
     
  2. jlprk

    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    We need a new fad, a national craze, of patriotism. It will have to start with young people, in the schools. While they pledge allegiance every morning, they should all hold red, white, and blue drums and bang them. After school while walking to the candy store, the new fad would be to bang their drums while shouting, "I love my country." Voters will need to pass school bond measures to fund the drums. Students will be assigned homework to practice on them. At home in the evenings, this will capture the parents' idealism and make them whoop hosannahs of patriotic joy. It will catch on if drum factories can keep up and kill enough cowskins.
     
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    Drum heads were calf skin. Modern heads are mylar and some high-tension heads are woven kevlar, which are bullet proof and could come in handy while marching down some streets.
     
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    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    My argument to that is - people use the freedom of speech to push agendas that are uncomftorable all the time... so where is the line? People want that freedom of speech as a cop-out, but only when its comftorable for them and aligned with their views.

    The problem is knowing where the line is... and we are nowhere near an answer to that, because people hide behind it all the time.
     
  5. blue32

    blue32 Who wants a mustache ride?

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    My opinions of people doing what Kap are doing are the same, doesn't matter who they are. I publicly shame them equally :)
     
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    I don't follow you. Seems your more inline with what I'm thinking. I don't get your arguement. Or even see it?

    My point is the same Kaperprick used his freedom of speech abilities to push his agenda. I agree with his agenda. I don't agree with how he pushed it.
     
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    In the end freedom of speech is also by how you present that speech. I dunno.
     
  8. HomerLovesKoolAid

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    America loves posers.
     
  9. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    *insert photo of swimsuit model posing here*
     
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    If the anthem was good, I'd respect it more. F'rinstance:

     
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    I don't. I think they are ugly nasty inflated rats.
    One time one made me tinkle in my pants on the way to school....
     
  12. dviss1

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    Every Varsity/College game I referee the anthem is played. I've always put my hand over my heart. Many times I've witnessed my white counterparts bowing their heads, hands behind their backs and not covering their hearts. Ialways wondered how it would play out if I didn't. From now on I will stand but I won't put my hand there because my heart is no longer in it. True story:

    About 10 or so years ago I'm doing a JV boys game at Liberty HS. For some odd reason the Varsity game was about to start in about the middle of the 4th quarter of my game. The away team was down 5 or 7 points when I heard the Introductions. I thought to myself "oh shit" as I quickly realized the anthem was going to be played. In the middle of the opposing team's fast break I blew my whistle and stopped play. I advised the whole gym that the anthem was about to start and that we would resume play once it was over. The away coach and their fans were livid... Loudly complaining because I stopped play. I basically told him to calm his fans, STFU, and get over it (obviously not in those words). While the anthem played NOT ONE of the opposing team's fans stood up; all of them were pissed at the fact that I stopped play mid fast break. Funny, because the team on the floor all stood at attention with their hands over their hearts. I remember feeling vindicated and thinking "look at the example your kids are showing. There is hope. They're better than you." Only after the anthem played about halfway and with their kids standing at attention did their parents reciprocate. After the anthem played those away kids came back and won by like 6 points.

    After the game (the ref usually runs right off the floor) I was stopped by a Liberty parent. I'll never forget his words. He said "hey ref, win or lose what you did was a great thing. Even though they don't have to stand, it's a good thing those kids got to set an example."
     
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    I don't get how anybody can say it created a discussion. All it did was make people that are for it and people that are against it argue, if you didn't check social media after he did it. It's completely stupid. I don't care that he did it, that's not the point. Point is, it's not actually doing anything. He is literally just kneeling, I am saying why doesn't he visit communities and put up his money if he is all about it. Welcome to 2016 where people think kneeling during thenational anthem makes you MLK for fuck sakes
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I feel like if you're going to protest or exert energy for change, you really need to have some kind of deliverable goal.

    What's the goal here?

    I mean, if it's a straight up "fuck the US government," I guess that's totally your prerogative. I'm not really a huge fan of our government, so I could understand that sentiment. But if you're actually saying that you're doing something to send a message, shouldn't there be like....... some time of end goal?
     
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  15. PDXFonz

    PDXFonz I’m listening

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    Unless you are D Wade and it's the Canadian anthem
     
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    Keep in mind. People in other countries do not understand our internal long running race problems, but they watch our behavior carefully.

    People in other countries watch on TV many of our sporting events, including our National Anthem before the events. What they see during our Anthem is a much divided country. They see weak people disrespecting the symbol of their own country.

    The action of the players is considered disrespectful in every other culture in the world. Even the fans talking in the stadium while our Anthem is playing is considered disrespectful and weak by other nations. That bad behavior has been going on for years, and needs to stop. People around the world do not consider us strong when we voice an opinion through actions during the Anthem, or ignore the anthem by talking during it.

    There is a time and a place for everything. The National Anthem is NOT THE TIME OR PLACE TO DIVIDE OUR PEOPLE, especially in front of the rest of the world.
     
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    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    If there was a way to dislike this post i would. I just had someone send this to me too.

    Everyone agrees those guys are shitheads. The nfl is backing kaep. The nfl cant control what the public uproars over. People are stupid. The nfl shit all over ap, ray rice, greg hardy.

    Come on now.
     
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