Pneumoniagate

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  1. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    inquisitr.

    Same thing.

    Two things.

    If I don't recognize the site in the article I cite, I dig around on the site, read the masthead, and google who the writers and editors are.

    You found this article in a rag because it belongs in a rag. You had asked why the MSM wasn't all over it. They don't want to get sued for libel. I'm sure if there become legs to it, they will be all over it calling him a rapist - they've called him all sorts of other names.

    The most they're going to do is report that there is a case, like USA Today did. If USA Today reported on it, as you found, then it kind of disproves the claim you made that the main stream media isn't covering it.

    FWIW.
     
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    Man, I'm beginning to worry about myself. I read that as multiple orgasmic systems.
     
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    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    I'm sure the rich people have machines for that too.
     
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    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    blue32 Who wants a mustache ride?

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    Anybody seen this from wikileaks?

    https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/17243

    From: Huma Abedin To: Hillary Clinton Date: 2013-01-04 10:10 Subject: ARTICLE I MENTIONED

    UNCLASSIFIED

    U.S. Department of State Case No. F-2014-20439 Doc No. C05797604 Date: 11/30/2015 RELEASE IN FULL
    From: Abedin, Huma <AbedinH@state.gov>
    Sent: Friday, January 4, 2013 5:10 PM
    To:
    Subject: Article I mentioned

    Hillary Clinton's Blood Clot Treatment And The Need For Privacy By Dr. Marc Siegel FOX News Thursday, January 3, 2013 Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's happy departure from Columbia Presbyterian Hospital the day after New Year's was not shrouded in mystery - nor was it announced with great fanfare. This is as it should be. A powerful politician's health is naturally of great interest to the public and can even serve as a learning tool for various diseases for other people at risk for them. But keep in mind that these high-profile individuals are human beings who are entitled to their privacy, and their physicians are bound by the same HIPPA laws that govern all medical details for all patients. In fact Secretary Clinton's neurologist at Columbia, who I heard from yesterday, is a top national expert on strokes, brain clots, bleeds, and head trauma. She couldn't be in better hands. Her condition, Right Transverse Sinus Thrombosis, is a fancy term for a blood clot forming in one of the main sinuses (a drain) of the brain. This clot can lead to brain swelling or a stroke, and it is certainly life threatening. However, in a situation where it is found incidentally and no symptoms have been exhibited, the risk is less because the brain's venous system may have found another way to drain while the clot is in the process of being dissolved. It is the body itself which dissolves the clot, not the anti-coagulants (heparin followed by Coumadin), but the latter prevent further clots from forming as the brain is healing. Now that Mrs. Clinton has been on blood thinners successfully for a few days, her risk of a stroke or other serious complication has decreased dramatically. She is going home because her blood tests are no doubt showing that her Coumadin dose is therapeutic. Why did this clot in the brain occur in the first place? Studies have shown that head trauma, which followed Secretary Clinton's faint a month ago, is one likely contributor, along with the dehydration that she probably suffered from a gastrointestinal virus a month ago and the associated diarrhea. Though the mechanism of a clot in the leg is more generally linked with immobility, there have been reports of venous clots in the brain occurring after prolonged sitting on planes. Since she suffered another blood clot in 1998, she now requires a hematological work-up to make sure she doesn't have an underlying tendency to form blood clots in the first place - known as hypercoagulability. If she does have that tendency, she will require a more prolonged or even permanent course of blood thinners, as well as an investigation to make sure there is no blood-thickening malignancy. This work-up cannot be completed until she is off Coumadin, which interferes with some of the results. Blood thinners are likely to be successful in Hillary Clinton's case, and she can look forward to a full recovery with the help of her careful devoted physicians. Her illness is a reminder to all of us in the media, journalist and physician alike, that health care is primarily a private matter, not a time for lurid interest and certainly not a time for political criticism. When it comes to celebrities and public leaders like Secretary Clinton, the urge to speculate and pontificate is high - but the high road is lined with respect and restraint. Dr. Marc Siegel is an associate professor of medicine and medical director of Doctor Radio at NYU Langone Medical Center. He is a member of the Fox News Medical A Team and author of The Inner Pulse: Unlocking the Secret Code of Sickness and Health.

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  10. Denny Crane

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    UNCLASSIFIED U.S. Department of State Case No. F-2014-20439 Doc No. C05797604 Date: 11/30/2015

    RELEASE
    IN FULL

    From: Abedin, Huma <AbedinH@state.gov>
    Sent: Friday, January 4, 2013 5:10 PM
    To:
    Subject: Article I mentioned

    Hillary Clinton's Blood Clot Treatment And The Need For Privacy By Dr. Marc Siegel FOX News Thursday, January 3, 2013

    Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's happy departure from Columbia Presbyterian Hospital the day after New Year's was not shrouded in mystery - nor was it announced with great fanfare. This is as it should be. A powerful politician's health is naturally of great interest to the public and can even serve as a learning tool for various diseases for other people at risk for them. But keep in mind that these high-profile individuals are human beings who are entitled to their privacy, and their physicians are bound by the same HIPPA laws that govern all medical details for all patients.

    In fact Secretary Clinton's neurologist at Columbia, who I heard from yesterday, is a top national expert on strokes, brain clots, bleeds, and head trauma. She couldn't be in better hands. Her condition, Right Transverse Sinus Thrombosis, is a fancy term for a blood clot forming in one of the main sinuses (a drain) of the brain. This clot can lead to brain swelling or a stroke, and it is certainly life threatening. However, in a situation where it is found incidentally and no symptoms have been exhibited, the risk is less because the brain's venous system may have found another way to drain while the clot is in the process of being dissolved.

    It is the body itself which dissolves the clot, not the anti-coagulants (heparin followed by Coumadin), but the latter prevent further clots from forming as the brain is healing. Now that Mrs. Clinton has been on blood thinners successfully for a few days, her risk of a stroke or other serious complication has decreased dramatically.

    She is going home because her blood tests are no doubt showing that her Coumadin dose is therapeutic.

    Why did this clot in the brain occur in the first place? Studies have shown that head trauma, which followed Secretary Clinton's faint a month ago, is one likely contributor, along with the dehydration that she probably suffered from a gastrointestinal virus a month ago and the associated diarrhea. Though the mechanism of a clot in the leg is more generally linked with immobility, there have been reports of venous clots in the brain occurring after prolonged sitting on planes.

    Since she suffered another blood clot in 1998, she now requires a hematological work-up to make sure she doesn't have an underlying tendency to form blood clots in the first place - known as hypercoagulability. If she does have that tendency, she will require a more prolonged or even permanent course of blood thinners, as well as an investigation to make sure there is no blood-thickening malignancy. This work-up cannot be completed until she is off Coumadin, which interferes with some of the results.

    Blood thinners are likely to be successful in Hillary Clinton's case, and she can look forward to a full recovery with the help of her careful devoted physicians. Her illness is a reminder to all of us in the media, journalist and physician alike, that health care is primarily a private matter, not a time for lurid interest and certainly not a time for political criticism.

    When it comes to celebrities and public leaders like Secretary Clinton, the urge to speculate and pontificate is high - but the high road is lined with respect and restraint.

    Dr. Marc Siegel is an associate professor of medicine and medical director of Doctor Radio at NYU Langone Medical Center. He is a member of the Fox News Medical A Team and author of The Inner Pulse: Unlocking the Secret Code of Sickness and Health.
     

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