Why do I have "insufficient privileges to reply” to the Nation Antheim thread?

I made a long post explaining my position on the matter. But there is a pretty gold lock on the thread.

Is some mod abusing their powers? How much does it cost to post in the National Anthem thread and which mod should I send the money to?

 

Sly is censoring me and he closed the thread.

 

DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT

 

The tone of the thread changed. However, it was censorship. As much as I am tired of being called racist for talking about racism, I don't think the thread should've been locked. Let alone locked without a post explaining why.

 

I personally attacked you. I'm not going to deny that. I called you a name. If he wanted to take that out, fine. I understand, but instead he just nuked everything and closed the thread.

 

That's not how it's usually handled. Why handle a personal attack in a new way? Arbitrarily locking a thread without an explanation is censorship at it's finest. Unlock the thread.

Being called racist for talking about racism isn't some new thing. It's simply newest approach white society is attempting to use to deflect from black people talking about systemic racism (the only form of racism most black people are actually talking about) is to label Black people racist for SIMPLY TALKING ABOUT RACISM. That’s it. If you are black & you start talking about racism, there are white people who will try to label you as racist for talking about it. We know I’m not making this shit up. I’ve stopped counting how many times I’ve been called a racist for simply talking about systemic racism.

YES…white people are tired of non-white people pointing out the culture of racism that lives deep within our society so much that they are now labeling us (black people) AS A RACIST for even talking about it. That’s the new game being played. What’s really going on here is, those white people are simply trying to silence you because they just don’t want to talk about it anymore. There are White people who say it all the time, “If people just stop talking about racism, it will go away.” That’s their solution that will never work. Instead of them listening & learning from what COUNTLESS people who are not white say about racism based off their own life or familial experiences, a lot of them attempt to silence you by trying to make it seem like you are the bad guy. White people who try to label you as a racist for talking about racism prefer to hide under the bedsheets to avoid accountability for the historic nature of their culture that is still prevalent in the present. They don’t want to own up to the fact Black people who speak on racism are not making this shit up. So miss me with the bullshit of attempting to call me racist because I address racism. How about you suck up those feelers and admit that racism is a severe problem perpetuated by mainly white people. All of these so-called racist Black people you speak of, these Black people are in essence just reacting to the American culture of racism because they’ve failed to discover another way (how do YOU want us to protest?) to intelligently express their disdain for racism. We didn't start this shit, we're trying to finish it. Help us do that instead of consistently putting your heads in the sand and ignoring.

 

How the fuck did I miss that? Won't read it now as it is likely too far gone to understand. Assholes.

 

There was not one personal attack made by me. If "minimzer" and "disconnected from reality" hurt some feelers someone's skin needs to thicken....

 

I just don't think that you have ever understood what bothers me about your posts.

When you say things like "white society" and "white people" you are lumping everyone who is white into one group. Do you understand why that's problematic?

"White people are tired of non-white people pointing out the culture of racism that lives deep within our society" how do you know that? That's essentially lumping every single white person into one group and saying that all white people are tired of this one thing. If you said "SOME white people are tired of non-white people pointing out the culture of racism" that would be one thing. That would be an accurate statement, but you're saying ALL white people when you just make a blanket statement like that.

You don't know how all white people feel, just as I'm sure you don't know how all black people feel. You know how you feel. I know how I feel. So I get mad at you and frustrated when I see you lumping me and every other white person into one group and telling us how we feel or what we're experiencing or what we're doing. It's those kinds of broad generalizations that I take issue with. You have never seemed to understand that, and when I disagree with you, you disregard me and label me as a "minimizer."

 

You are the only mod in the history of this community who has fucked with the OT section.... except for the Lakers douche that drove everyone away from BBF. Other than that, the OT forum has been the wild west. I tried to explain that to you when you started as a mod, but you have always tried to fuck with it.

 

Also... there's a joke to be made about oldfisherman having "insufficient (white) privilege to post in that other thread.

 

Honestly, It's been more and more censored as the days go on. First hand experience w/that one for saying 'sand in the vagina' puhhhlleassseeee.

 

Disclaimer: This is not aimed at anyone specifically, so it should not be edited/deleted/censored.

big·ot
ˈbiɡət/
noun

1. a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.

If you are unwilling to listen to a person who has a different opinion, you are (by definition) a bigot. I would like to share one point of view that I had slightly altered because of something I read. I have been rather indifferent about the Kaepernick story because I thought it was somewhat pointless. I didn't think it would actually accomplish anything. It was a flash in the pan story, it will run its course, and then it will fade away. I recently read the letter that Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. wrote from Birmingham Jail back in 1963. The letter is pretty long, but worth a read because it has some interesting perspective on the recent events.

The quotes that were specifically interesting were such:

https://www.africa.upenn.edu/Articles_Gen/Letter_Birmingham.html

"I must make two honest confessions to you, my Christian and Jewish brothers. First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action"; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a "more convenient season." Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.

I had hoped that the white moderate would understand that law and order exist for the purpose of establishing justice and that when they fail in this purpose they become the dangerously structured dams that block the flow of social progress. I had hoped that the white moderate would understand that the present tension in the South is a necessary phase of the transition from an obnoxious negative peace, in which the Negro passively accepted his unjust plight, to a substantive and positive peace, in which all men will respect the dignity and worth of human personality. Actually, we who engage in nonviolent direct action are not the creators of tension. We merely bring to the surface the hidden tension that is already alive. We bring it out in the open, where it can be seen and dealt with. Like a boil that can never be cured so long as it is covered up but must be opened with all its ugliness to the natural medicines of air and light, injustice must be exposed, with all the tension its exposure creates, to the light of human conscience and the air of national opinion before it can be cured.

In your statement you assert that our actions, even though peaceful, must be condemned because they precipitate violence. But is this a logical assertion? Isn't this like condemning a robbed man because his possession of money precipitated the evil act of robbery? Isn't this like condemning Socrates because his unswerving commitment to truth and his philosophical inquiries precipitated the act by the misguided populace in which they made him drink hemlock? Isn't this like condemning Jesus because his unique God consciousness and never ceasing devotion to God's will precipitated the evil act of crucifixion? We must come to see that, as the federal courts have consistently affirmed, it is wrong to urge an individual to cease his efforts to gain his basic constitutional rights because the quest may precipitate violence. Society must protect the robbed and punish the robber. I had also hoped that the white moderate would reject the myth concerning time in relation to the struggle for freedom. I have just received a letter from a white brother in Texas. He writes: "All Christians know that the colored people will receive equal rights eventually, but it is possible that you are in too great a religious hurry. It has taken Christianity almost two thousand years to accomplish what it has. The teachings of Christ take time to come to earth." Such an attitude stems from a tragic misconception of time, from the strangely irrational notion that there is something in the very flow of time that will inevitably cure all ills. Actually, time itself is neutral; it can be used either destructively or constructively. More and more I feel that the people of ill will have used time much more effectively than have the people of good will. We will have to repent in this generation not merely for the hateful words and actions of the bad people but for the appalling silence of the good people. Human progress never rolls in on wheels of inevitability; it comes through the tireless efforts of men willing to be co workers with God, and without this hard work, time itself becomes an ally of the forces of social stagnation. We must use time creatively, in the knowledge that the time is always ripe to do right. Now is the time to make real the promise of democracy and transform our pending national elegy into a creative psalm of brotherhood. Now is the time to lift our national policy from the quicksand of racial injustice to the solid rock of human dignity."

This is a very eloquent way of shining the spotlight on a very specific demographic of people. If you consider yourself to be a "white moderate," this letter is a punch to the gut. Not everyone can be as well written/well spoken as Dr. King, but this is how you convince people.

 

@SlyPokerDog is a nazi-threadlockin', white mod privileged, black mod wannabe!

 

Man I always stay clear of those type threads. Nothing can be accomplished with out face to face words being exchanged. You can't tell the tone when it's typed.