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Hahaha, the fuck....

 

Well you got one part of my post anyhow. The speeding reference being ridiculous. Just about as ridiculous as considering drawing fouls an elite skill, especially in the way he does it and THAT was my point.

I'm not saying Harden is nobody without his flops, but I will not agree to anyone saying flopping and drawing fouls are elite skills in the NBA.
Part of the game? yes. Skill? no.
Its not a skill
Dribbling between the legs is a skill
Just like jumping is not a skill. Its athleticism. A big difference between being athletic and being skilled.
If you think Hardens foul drawing is an elite skill, I wont try to change your opinion, but remember, its just your opinion, and I wholeheartedly think your wrong on this is all... and that my opinion.

Its an act. Not a skill. Now if he was an actor? He would be extremely skilled, but he is not. He is an nba player where acting is not a skill.

 

During?

 

Until Lillard cleans up his defense he's going to be looked at as simply the player he just is. His defense is beyond TRASH. Out of the 81 point guards ranked by ESPN, he sits at 79th in Defensive Real Plus-Minus. That's awful!

Blazers also allowed 4.5 more points per 100 possessions last season when Lillard was on the floor. On top of that, players shot 3.6 percent above their average from three-point range when guarded by Lillard, and shot 7.9 percent above their average within six feet against him.

And don't get me started on his shooting percentages. Did you guys know his playoffs career shooting percentage is barley above 40%?

All in all I'm ready to judge him on a new season that's coming up. I hope I'm able to say "wow he's so much better this year"

 

pitch it to Chris Kaman for a reality show episode

 

I consider that flopping. Its flopping to me if the defender has hand out and the offensive player moves his arms into his. Its not the same as falling to the ground when not touched, but it has the same effect. A foul where the defender didn't do anything wrong. practiced or not. rehearsed or not. its flopping and is not a skill.

 

Who on here plays NBA2k or the new games where they give real time stats for the players in the game based on their real time play?

I don't, so I am not certain, but I would be willing to bet on these assumptions.

There is not one guy who leads every stat rating. Most players who have more than one stat/skill rating as high as possible often have another stat/skill rating that is below average.

I don't know what you expect. 100% FT, 100% FG on zero FGA? 30 rebounds and 50 assists a game?

Most of the greats have flaws. Yours is you think the best players are flawless and that is mostly not true.

 

LOWRY HAS HUGE FLAWS! :MARIS61:

 

Acting is a skill.

 

*begins the slow clap* Well done.

 

Tunchi had some good analysis there.

 

3 of the top 5 are point guards in the West, and 4 of the top 7 are West guards. This should be stickied for anytime someone bitches about All-Star Game snubs.

 

As has been proven in the playoffs, the ability to draw fouls does not translate well to the post season. The fouls dry up, but Harden keeps playing the same style. It hurts his team. It's one of the reasons why we were able to beat them a few years back.

 

DRPM is flawed. I'm not getting into that.

As far as more points per 100, Lillard is usually playing against starters, and when he's off the court is usually when the opponents bench pieces are in. That would mean when Lillards on the court, the other team has better players in, meaning they would naturally score more.

And yeah opponents shot better than their average when guarded by Lillard, but some of that is attributed to ten defense, and some is attributed to scheme.

If Lillard is fighting over the screen, he either gets through and there no 3 point shot, or the screen is good and he doesn't get through, leaving the shooter wide open. Sometimes he doesnt get through because it wild be a lot easier to sprint under. Since the screeners man doesn't hedge, (which is our scheme) the ball handler is going to get better looks than usual from 3 when Lillard gets stuck, leading to a higher percentage.

I can't believe that you blamed Lillard on percentage of shots his guy makes within 6 feet. They shoot 8% higher because we had no rim protector. It's not Lillard job to sit at the rim and block/alter layups, because he's a damn PG!

You're bringing subjective stats into it when must are a combination of many things that aren't Lillard, and then using another stat (DRPM) reflective of these combinations and trying to pin that on Lillard alone. We didn't have good TEAM defense, and our scheme and lack of rim protection will always make guards look worse than they actually are on defense.

 

So, that must be true for the defensive rating of every other starter in the league, too?

 

He's feast or famine!

BNM

 

Yes, but that's what I'm saying is that it will be a little negatively skewed. Couple that with how our SCHEME makes it easy on opposing PGs (the best position in the league, especially in the west, and it's gonna make Dame look bad.