The polls have gotten better for Trump/worse for Hiliar since this. The godly Nate Silver. http://fivethirtyeight.com/features...-if-the-polls-still-look-like-this-in-a-week/ Election Update: Democrats Should Panic … If The Polls Still Look Like This In A Week
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/11/us/politics/11mccain.html?_r=0 A Hint of New Life to a McCain Birth Issue In the most detailed examination yet of Senator John McCain’s eligibility to be president, a law professor at the University of Arizona has concluded that neither Mr. McCain’s birth in 1936 in the Panama Canal Zone nor the fact that his parents were American citizens is enough to satisfy the constitutional requirement that the president must be a “natural-born citizen.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...d3b99a-7c54-11e6-bd86-b7bbd53d2b5d_story.html Among Democrats, deep concern about Clinton’s Hispanic strategy Lagging support among Hispanic voters for Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton and congressional candidates in crucial races has stoked deep concern that the party and the presidential campaign are doing too little to galvanize a key constituency. While Clinton holds a significant lead over Republican rival Donald Trump in every poll of Hispanic voters, less clear is whether these voters will turn out in numbers that Democrats are counting on to win. Clinton trails President Obama’s 2012 performance in several Latino-rich states, including Florida, Nevada, Colorado and Arizona. In those same states, on which Democrats’ prospects of retaking the Senate hinge, some down-ballot Democrats remain unknown to many Hispanic voters. That reality has prompted a flurry of criticism of Clinton’s and the party’s Hispanic strategies. Despite a uniquely favorable environment with Trump’s repeated attacks on undocumented immigrants, Democrats are increasingly worried that the opportunity is slipping away to meet a long-standing party goal of marshaling the nation’s growing Hispanic population into a permanent electoral force. The concerns are compounded by Trump’s recent surge in several battleground states.
http://www.dispatch.com/content/sto...1-republicans-rallying-for-trump-in-ohio.html Republicans rallying for Trump in Ohio Donald Trump’s ascension to his biggest lead of the general election campaign in Ohio is fueled by a pair of surprising sources: newfound Republican Party unity and increased voter trust. Buried in the data of recent polls showing Trump with as much as a 5-point lead in a four-way race are indications that after months of skepticism, GOP voters are unexpectedly supporting Trump to a greater degree than Democratic voters are backing their nominee, Hillary Clinton. And the surveys also indicate Ohio voters now believe that Trump is more “honest and trustworthy” than Clinton. Of course, the polls are all but certain to change between now and Election Day. Political surveys have proved to be especially volatile this year; one even has Clinton up 7 points in Ohio. But it’s indisputable that Trump is doing better. Nate Silver’s FiveThirtyEight website says the GOP nominee has a 57 percent chance of winning Ohio. A month ago, Silver put Trump’s odds at less than 25 percent of taking America’s top bellwether state. Even Clinton’s campaign manager, Robby Mook, noted the overall national trend in a fundraising appeal Friday: “One or two polls would be an outlier. But nearly every public poll in the past few weeks has shown Trump closing the gap.”
Except, of course, that (a) no one has ever questioned where McCain was born; (b) McCain actually wasn't born in the United States; (c) there's no conspiracy theory, only a constitutional/legal issue; (d) no current or past presidential candidate spent years talking about the issue. Other than that, yeah, exactly the same. barfo
Other than questioning the person's eligibility for office you mean. Trump brought up the same thing with Cruz, though that does fit with the racist thing.
Baloney. The question has come up several times. McCain, George Romney, and at least one other, Chester Aurthur I think it was. What is surprising is that it was not brought up officially over Obama. This is especially surprising to me because he is the only one that does not meet the requirements for attaching "Natural Born" to citizen as required for the office of President. The Naturalization law of 1790 some what affirms the original intent of the term, Natural Born, as being the same as is defined in the Law of Nations, sometimes referred to as Natural Law. From the article; But McCain is a natural-born citizen, even though he was not born within this country’s borders, since his parents were citizens at the time of his birth. As a congressional act stated in 1790: Congress: “And the children of citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens.” From the Law of Nations; Law of Nation 212 Book 1 "Citizens and natives. The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country." http://www.factcheck.org/2008/02/john-mccains-presidential-eligibility/ The 14th amendment changed the law as to whom is a Citizen but it did not address the definitions of Natural Born. Being a Citizen is not the same and being a Natural Born Citizen even if born in one of the States. My reading of history, tells me that the original intent of using the term Natural Born Citizen as the qualifier for President of the US, was specifically to prevent a person born here but probably loyal to another Nation from becoming President. McCain fits, Cruz probably does fit as his father is a citizen, Romney fits. Barrack Obama doe not fit the term as his father was not a citizen of the United States. Although he is a citizen as defined by the 14th amendment, he is also (or was) a citizen of the UK and Kenya by British law, and as is defined in the the Law of Nations. This in my mind, is clearly in conflict with the original intent of the use of the term Natural Born Citizen in the Constitution, even thought the Constitution does not define the term what so ever, leaving the meaning to be defined by usage contemporary with period.
No, that's not the way the English language works. Show me where a current or past presidential candidate spent years talking about the issue, and you'll get to call 'baloney'. I agree the issue has come up several times, but that's a completely different claim. Your Natural Law argument is noted. barfo
Perusing 538, I came upon this graphic, that I think is one of my favorites in terms of illustrating how close the race is. This basically suggests that (if the current polls hold) Pennsylvania will basically be the key to this election.
Not saying he's the best candidate or anything of that matter. But if the blue party really wanted to have a democrat in the white house again. There was a candidate running for the blue's who did FAR better in poles against Trump than Clinton ever did. But alas that ship has sailed. Blue party had their candidate before any vote was cast.
They really did fuck this up badly, if we actually end up with Trump as president we have nobody to blame but the Democrats for having 8 years to come up with a candidate and getting the worst one possible.
The liar with a surge in today's polls. However, the electoral college looks like 1 state flipped for Trump puts him over 270.
