I Need To Stop Trying To Help Y'all Gain Perspective

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  1. blue32

    blue32 Who wants a mustache ride?

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    Hmm. Not sure how you jumped to that conclusion but hey it's your site. Lol
     
  2. dviss1

    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    Not sure why people get butthurt about shit like this. If you didn't say anything WTF are you upset about? Like I've said before, Denny, Sly, etc understand I'm not talking about them. Why don't you? Jesus some people...
     
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  3. dviss1

    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    Bullshit on the bold black. Your firearm is on your strong hand side. They know where it is.

    Bullshit on the red bold. They're supposed to be trained professionals and they literally have our lives in their hands.
     
  4. jlprk

    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    These "mistakes" happen over 1000 times per year in the U.S...Divide by 365. That's 3 per day. This number is only for police murders before the person is taken into custody. The number is higher if you include after custody, or jail deaths.

    In other countries, the rate of "mistakes" is far, far lower. What is it about American prosecutors which produces so many "mistakes?"

    Blame the prosecutors.
     
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  5. dviss1

    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    His winow was up...

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  6. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    They found PCP in the vehicle.

    This is what happened. Police got a 911 call that the SUV was just left in the middle of the road.

    He has a pattern on non-compliance. They had to use force 3 separate times to arrest him.

    and frequent run ins with the law.


    but this was all by chance. a nice college student who's car just happened to break down.
     
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  7. jlprk

    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    One more tip: To escape blame for encouraging police killers, the prosecutor calls a "grand jury." He then presents only the evidence he wants them to see. When they let off the policeman, it appears to be their decision, not his.

    A "grand jury" is a prosecutor's device to spread the criticism around, away from him. Plus, it delays the process a year, to vent the momentum out of public criticism, and give time to create problems in the leaders' personal lives.
     
  8. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    I guess the most, if anything, they get the female cop for is involuntary manslaughter due to her bad judgment.
     
  9. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Speeding and driving without a license? Death penalty! No need for judge and jury.
     
  10. rasheedfan2005

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    According to news articles... according to actual statistics the numbers are near even.
     
  11. rasheedfan2005

    rasheedfan2005 Well-Known Member

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    Women shouldnt be in charge of anything. Can you imagine hillary with nuke buttons and on her period. Putin says her dress makes her look fat next thing you know nuclear fallout.
     
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  12. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    It's not even the nukes I'm concerned about, it's having access to her own black ops within the CIA special activities division.
     
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    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    Who had to use force? The Tulsa police? Did they recognize him from previous arrests? Was the officer who shot him involved in any of the previous arrests? Did the police identify him before or after shooting him?
     
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    Go ahead and stop then..
     
  15. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    No, it's just a pattern of aggressive behavior and noncompliance when in contact with the police. And if he was on PCP and erratic, any jerky movement could set an officer to act defensively and shoot him.
     
  16. PDXFonz

    PDXFonz I’m listening

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    In a sense the same thing you are fighting you are perpetuating with that statement - Ultimates. "Everyone" is an ultimate. Saying a certain group, race, social class, sexual orientation, etc... is the same because of the actions or mentalities of certain individuals is also an ultimate. It's often a spiteful form of "everyone" which leads to and/or fuels racist beliefs.

    Plus it's blatantly incorrect as you've already mentioned two other individuals who magically do not fit the confines of "everyone". Perhaps a more accurate statement would be that "many people" are doing it.

    I'm not looking for argument, and I'm on your side on this one as I am most topics you bring to the table. I'm just one of those assholes that is a stickler for accuracy when it comes to description.
     
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    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    Bullshit on you getting to be the arbiter of what I think. I read and consider your opinions and don't blast you when I disagree. You have a perspective on these issues that I can never have and I respect that. It doesn't mean that you are 100 percent correct in your views.

    Just as a case in point, how exactly was the officer supposed to know which was this guy's strong hand? From the helicopter footage, the guy reaches towards his pocket with his right hand. I think most people would say the odds favor that being his dominant hand.



    On the second part, being a trained professional doesn't mean that you aren't subject to emotions or that you always make the right call. As a ref, I think you know that's true. Obviously, a cop should be held to a higher standard because they do have the ability to apply lethal force. As I said in my post, I don't see enough here to justify the use of lethal force. I suspect that the officer is likely going to face charges in this case. Unless there's more than is apparent from the video, she should face charges.
     
  19. MarAzul

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    Why is this guys vehicle in the middle of the road? What the heck is he doing out and about when the cops come?
    Doesn't seem like the behavior of a rational individual.
     
  20. H.C.

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    It's took me a little bit to understand you're not talking about all white people or all christian white males etc ~ when you say certain things.
    I think it's due to being taught as a child. Saying things like that towards black/mexican or even white people could lead to trouble should I say things too loudly.(if I were to say things)
    I will say though, understanding doesn't make it any easier to read. But that's my problem ha.

    I do hope you keep posting. Even if sometimes it feels like you are talking to a wall.
     
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