I Need To Stop Trying To Help Y'all Gain Perspective

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  1. H.C.

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    So when I stopped by hillsboro high school last year due to coming around the corner.
    Seeing a Mexican male out of his car, walking around it.
    While in the middle of the road...
    Due to it being overheated when I approached and offered to push it out of the road for him.
    I should have instead called the police so they could shoot the man? Simply because he didn't respond to english well, and he was in the middle of the road walking around his car.
    Obviously a dangerous man I encountered...
     
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    That is a very weird take friend. Do have any answers to the questions I asked?
     
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    I like how he assumed it was a mexican....
     
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    Libertarian courts sure cut through all that red tape and oversight, eh Denny? :cheers:
     
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    Actually where I was going with the questions which no one can answer, a guy walking about with his car in the middle of the road does seem a bit irrational.
    Perhaps that should tip of the officers that this guy might not be fully processing. Therefore he just might not respond rationally to commands that the police issue.

    This then is when police training as a result of police policy begins to break down and becomes a danger to the public. When the police issue commands, they are trained to require compliance.
    If the individual they are commanding is not processing rationally then expecting rational behavior from the irrational person is also very irrational. Shooting the man then caps of a incident with the final irrational act.
     
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    That went out in the 60's. They want them out and away from the car, one at a time.

    They put suspects on the ground, cuff them, then pat them down for weapons.
     
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    Looks like a bad dude. And he was just turning his life around, he just got out of prison a few months ago! IMG_20160920_223106.jpg
     
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    When police with drawn guns tell you to do a specific thing, doing something entirely different is not an option.

    In every city in America, police forces are comprised of the lower half of IQ's in society. They purposely reject above average IQ's because they want people who follow orders, not people who think. They have defended this hiring discrimination in court and won. Add to that dismal crop a huge pool of completely unqualified women and minorities through Affirmative Action and you've got to be amazed that they don't get us all killed simply by accident.

    For the most part they are good people trying to do good things, but as a group they are severely handicapped when compared to society as a whole.
     
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    I'm sorry, but "interpreting" someone might be going for a weapon does not justify killing someone and it's not a valid fucking excuse. Neither is him trying to escape.

    The officer shouldve never been pointing his gun at him in the first place. Even then, an officer isn't justified in killing someone because they didn't follow their exact order.

    People like to blame it in the victim by saying "If he didnt do this subtle little thing that could be interpreted as a possible threat, he wouldn't have gotten shot.". Yeah... Maybe, maybe not. Either way, killing isn't justified unless they are a certain threat to your life. Perceiving the possibility isn't enough.

    That would be like me shooting anyone carrying a duffle bag in public and justifying it by saying I "interpreted" there might be a bomb in the bag (just like the dumbass "interpreted" there might be a weapon in the car). Would you go and say "well it's their fault, they shouldn't have been carrying a duffle bag because it could've been interpreted as a threat and they should've known that"? No, you wouldn't.
     
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    "Hey, I see you carrying this duffle bag. It's dangerous because it is not known if theres a bomb in there or not, so I guess my only option is to kill you"
     
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    Considering theres about 5 times as many whites that blacks in this country, that would mean youd 5 times more likely to get shot by police if youre black.
     
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    The car window was closed, so that kills the excuse that he reached through it.

    The policewoman had just finished a class that trained her in this situation, so she was all hepped up on killing someone. Who are these anonymous trainers who are blamed but never named, much less hanged?
     
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    Ain't misuse of statistics grand?

    I don't mean you.
     
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    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...ed-to-police-for-help-they-shot-him-dead.html

    That big bad dude was 40-year-old Terence Crutcher—a man who raised his hands high above his head in submission before he was shot to death Friday by police in Oklahoma— and those are the words of his twin sister Tiffany, who is now left to plan his funeral service.

    Slumped beside his stalled SUV, his blood streaming out onto the asphalt, it is impossible to reconcile those final tragic moments captured on police video—impossible to understand why an unarmed man, suspected of committing no crime and who threatened no one, was summarily shot on an open roadway by an officer sworn to serve and protect him.

    It appears his only crime was being a large, black man who had the misfortune of having his car break down on a public street. He paid for that with his life.

    Crutcher was leaving a music appreciation class at a community college when his car stalled out, his family said. The silver SUV was reportedly “straddling the centerline of the northeast Tulsa road with its engine idling and its doors open” near 36th Street and Lewis Avenue when the first officer arrived, drew her gun and began spitting out commands. She called for backup, claiming the stranded motorist was unresponsive.

    ...

    “He’s got his hands up there for her now,” one officer aboard the chopper said. That officer, believed to her husband Dave, then unwittingly and directly contradicts Officer Shelby’s statements to investigators. “This guy is still walking and following commands.”
     
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    I am just amazed at how anyone could defend this shooting, but not really surprised to see the same people justifying the shooting. One officer uses a tazer, another uses their gun. If this killing was justified, why weren't both officers using their gun? One must have been right and the other was wrong.
     
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    So the guy was high on PCP and not following orders.

    Has anyone seen people on PCP get tasered before? Guess what, they don't fucking care, it doesn't affect them. Crazy shit happens to the human body when you're high on PCP.

    I really have no sympathy at all for people doing these types of drugs and causing a problem for citizens and police alike.

    Sounds to me like the officers knew he was high, wasn't responding to instruction and made threaten gestures (like reaching for pockets, or into cars, or whatever the fuck).

    They are trained to elevate when tasers do not work, and they will not go hand to hand when people are reaching in pockets.
     
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    Tasers dont do shit to people high on PCP.

    It ain't called the 'superman' drug for nothing.
     
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    He was big and black. Scary big, scary black. He wasn't high on PCP, but that's a convenient claim if you're looking for excuses to excuse this execution.
     
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