I Need To Stop Trying To Help Y'all Gain Perspective

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  1. EL PRESIDENTE

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    No, it isn't as simple as that. Police officers have to assume the worst, being that he had a weapon on him. Its a matter of public safety to err on the side of caution when a strung out junkie isn't following orders.

    Following orders from a police officer who has a gun drawn on you. Its so fucking simple. Don't act erratic, don't make sudden movements and listen to them like your life depends on it because it does.
     
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    Where was your outrage here when this black officer shot another black man?!?

    http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_57b0e66ae4b071840411c739

    The solution isn't hiring more cops of color Denny. It's fixing the issue of poor training, AND fixing the issue of suspects not complying AND fixing the media agenda on this shit.
     
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    If you mix white cops and black neighborhoods, you're going to end up with blacks getting shot by white cops.

    It stinks of the old days when lynchings were more common and the police often took part.
     
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    If you mix black cops and black neighborhoods you're going to end up with blacks getting shot by black cops.
    If you mix asian cops and black neighborhoods you're going to end up with blacks getting shot by asian cops.
    If you mix latino cops and black neighborhoods you're going to end up with blacks getting shot by latino cops.
    If you mix transgender cops and black neighborhoods you're going to end up with blacks getting shot by transgender cops.
     
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    This article I just posted was black on black dude.
     
  6. Denny Crane

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    And if a suspect aims a gun at a cop, by all means the cop (or anyone else for that matter) has a right to self defense.
     
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    I addressed your sentence after the link.

    The solution isn't hiring more cops of color Denny. It's fixing the issue of poor training, AND fixing the issue of suspects not complying AND fixing the media agenda on this shit.


    And I just addressed the black cop shooting the black guy with a gun.
     
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    Maybe he doesn't know about menopause?
     
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    It was a black cop that shot the guy in Charlotte and still there were riots. This whole thing is hyper-sensitive right now and people are reacting with anger. Where the white perspective is generally that each incident has to be looked at separately based on the facts, it seems to me that BLM jumps to lumping them all together as a sign that there's a bigger problem where blacks are being killed disproportionately. The fact is that both views are correct.
     
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    I guess I don't see how you addressed it. But hiring more cops of any color doesn't solve a damn thing. it will just spread the stats around and screw up BLM's agenda.
     
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    True. But there are more whites dying by police than blacks. And you don't see white folk burning up their damn neighborhoods when smokey lights up some dumb white boy.
     
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    most trailers are made of metal...harder to light on fire
     
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    More, yes, but disproportionate to the relative population numbers. I'm not arguing in favor or rioting. I'm arguing in favor of finding other ways to subdue suspects instead of blowing them away. White, black, brown, yellow...I don't care. We should be able to reduce the number of times that people without guns have to be killed by cops.
     
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    Take away the cops' guns. Have them call in support who do.
     
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    The black cop hangs with the white ones. The attitude rubs off. The whites are still making the rules.
     
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    Page 2...

    Page 10 below. Let's all jump to conclusions for 10 pages and then try and solve it.
    Looks like some people might be dying tonight in NC. Good job people.
     
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    So fucking stupid. Words fail....
     
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    There were two black men needlessly murdered in two days. Stop killing them, and there will be no riots.

    Keep excusing the cops and the riots will continue and get worse.

    It doesn't require much common sense.
     
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    Yes, Me to. I will concede that is entirely impossible to decide in a split second when a suspect is not cooperating and possibly high on drugs, what you should do. It's not like they can run away, and tasering only works sometimes. What's the alternative then? Do we stop having police approach suspects? Maybe communicate with them through a bull-horn while inside an armored car so they can't get shot at? Do you tranquilize a suspect because they do not cooperate? What happens if that doesn't work, or they miss?
     
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    I actually came up with an idea to fix this while at work today. Instead of a cop getting a paid vacation after a shooting, this.

    If you shoot and kill anyone while on duty you get three months off UNpaid. Right or wrong you stay home.

    It is like a certain job at my work, replacing a frame rail on a car. It pays almost nothing and is about the hardest job we do. If I tell someone I need to replace one I NEED to do it.
     

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