https://www.google.com/amp/abcnews....y/story?id=42261880?client=ms-android-verizon As Donald Trump courted African-American voters in Cleveland on Wednesday at a town hall taped by Fox News to air Thursday evening, he seemed to express support for establishing the stop and frisk policing policy on a national level. When asked by an audience member how he would stop violence in the black community, Trump responded, "I would do stop and frisk. I think you have to. We did it in New York. It worked incredibly well. And you have to be proactive, and you know, you really help people sort of change their mind automatically." He added, "New York City was incredible, the way that worked, so I think that could be one step you could do." The law enforcement policy — in which police officers stop and question pedestrians regardless of whether they believe a crime has been committed, then search the pedestrians if the officers suspect violations — has been extremely controversial, particularly in communities of color, and has been the subject of several legal challenges alleging racial profiling and discrimination. The policy gained prominence in the 1990s under New York City Police Commissioner Bill Bratton and Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who is now a close confidant of Trump's. Trump previously expressed his support for the policy, praising Giuliani for its success in New York. Trump has as of late also been an ardent supporter of profiling regarding immigration, believing it is a helpful tactic in stopping terrorism. He has drawn the ire of some African-Americans not only for praising stop and frisk but also for painting a grim portrait of black life. On Tuesday night, Trump said, "Our African-American communities are absolutely in the worst shape that they've ever been in before, ever, ever, ever" — seeming not to take into account slavery, institutional segregation or the often violent reactions in the civil rights movement. On Thursday morning, however, in an interview on "Fox & Friends," he sought to amend his position, saying he never meant to suggest that stop and frisk should be implemented nationally. "Now Chicago is out of control. I was referring to Chicago with stop and frisk," Trump said. His initial answer came in response to a question that did not mention Chicago, though Trump cited the city in a previous answer as a place that is "out of control." Of course, as president, Trump would not be able to unilaterally implement the policy in a single city; he would have to defer to local officials and law enforcement. During a press conference, the members of the Congressional Black Caucus were asked about Trump's stop-and-frisk remarks. "The notion that stop and frisk had anything to do with the improving public safety numbers in New York is ludicrous, and Donald trump needs to check his facts," said Rep. Hakeem Jeffries, D-New York. "We would ask Donald Trump to bone up on his knowledge of what is constitutional and what is unconstitutional," said Rep. Yvette Clarke, D-New York.
Most of you are too young to remember. And the rest of us old enough have forgotten. But back in the 1960’s, the hippie movement attracted a lot of attention from the police, much like the colored people now attract attention from the police. The police conducted a lot of body frisks with the excuse of suspicion of carrying the drug, marijuana. The thing is, most of the frisking by the police was done to young pretty hippy women. I do not remember the exact details, but I believe police searched/mulled a couple of the wrong girls, several important people’s daughters. It caused a big backlash, and new search guidelines, especially of women, were the result. It sounds like some people are sliding back into the old ways.
The Supreme Court says this shit is legal, it is just a "mild" break of our constitutional rights that are outweighed by the greater good or some such bullshit. I think the id stuff varies by state, not super sure he was correct but I'm with him.
Fuck DUI checkpoints. Biggest bunch of bullshit ever. I do think the ID stuff is different state by state which does suck. This guy handled it well, and wow a black dude didn't get shot by white police officers. That sort of breaks the narrative there eh?
Dude, they don't think that every black guy gets shot. I don't think that I would be a protestor but that doesn't mean they don't have a legit beef. Their methods are debatable too but why they protest doesn't seem to me to be an issue. It used to be that you can't avoid death and taxes. Well, some people have figured out taxes so there is an exception to every rule except dying. This dude was really asking for it. The shame is that he was asking for it by exercising his constitutional rights.
haha. I know, some people around here believe it though, said as much themselves. And your last sentence is so true and it happens to everyone, white, black, whatever. The police are allowed to go way to far. thank your lawmakers for that.
