Massachusetts court rules Black men fleeing the police is reasonable

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  1. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    Ridiculous. If they approached the guy and searched him for no reason then fuck the police and toss the conviction.

    If a cop wants to talk to you and you run away I don't care what color you are. That is probable cause to at least detain you.

    Well, hopefully this will at least stop people from wearing their pants half way down their ass. If you know you can just run you gotta be ready.
     
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    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    I'm writing this as I listen to New Whirl Odor, wonder if Chuck D would agree with anything I say.
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Massachusetts court says "check your privilege..."
     
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    Well, a black guy can mug or kill one of the judges and just wear dark clothing and get away with it. They just gave them that privilege. I'm pretty sure most suspect descriptions aren't very descriptive anyway so now what do the cops do?

    If the guy isn't caught red handed and they don't have a good description how do you catch him? DNA left after the fact?

    Here is an example......Cop gets a vague description of a black guy, sees someone that slightly resembles the description. Approaches him and the guy runs away and jumps in his car and runs from the cops. They chase him and catch him without shooting him.

    Let's say the guy didn't even do what the cop was going to talk to him about but after the chase they find his girlfriend's body in the trunk.

    Now he can get away with murder.

    If this stands a black guy could literally plan it like this to get away with murder. Kill her in the car and keep all the evidence in the car, it would all be thrown out. Just gotta get a cop's attention and then RUN!!!!!!!!
     
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    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    What if the guy in the story had a warrant? Will they be forced to release him and try to catch him later?
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    I'm sure someone could come up with a hypothetical to dispute every constitutional right. A .001% possibility of someone abusing a ruling doesn't negate its overall validity.
     
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    This ruling will be overturned. One, you can't have separate laws for people based on their race, a law has to apply to everyone or it is biased. So, if they are going to say black people have the right to run, then so should Hispanics, Asians, whites, etc. Equality before the law.
     
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    Running from the police is suspicious. The .001 percent possibility number is closer to the percentage of people who just run from cops and are actually innocent.

    DUI checkpoints are completely unconstitutional but the court said it was minor when they upheld them if I remember correctly. Something about public safety outweighs the small infringement on our rights.

    I would expect this to be overturned but who knows anymore?
     
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    Sure you can. If i get fired for being white i cant sue for prejudice because im not a protected class. Where as if im fired for being a muslim or black ect i can sue my employer. All protected class laws are racist and exist as laws.
     
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    We do not eliminate flight as a factor in the reasonable suspicion analysis whenever a black male is the subject of an investigatory stop. However, in such circumstances, flight is not necessarily probative of a suspect's state of mind or consciousness of guilt. Rather, the finding that black males in Boston are disproportionately and repeatedly targeted for FIO [Field Interrogation and Observation] encounters suggests a reason for flight totally unrelated to consciousness of guilt. Such an individual, when approached by the police, might just as easily be motivated by the desire to avoid the recurring indignity of being racially profiled as by the desire to hide criminal activity. Given this reality for black males in the city of Boston, a judge should, in appropriate cases, consider the report's findings in weighing flight as a factor in the reasonable suspicion calculus."
     
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    Hahhahahaha. We arent racist, feel free to run and trust the judge to take your side. This is some of the dumbest shit ive ever read.
     
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    Stupidest thing I've read in ages.

    "Fuck it's the cops, run!!!!!!!!!!!!"

    Is because of racial profiling?

    No, "god damn these mother fucking pigs are always hassling me" is because of racial profiling. People don't run like there is a bomb to avoid getting hassled.
     
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    If for every black guy contacted just to question them one also runs then that could be "just as easily"

    They don't.
     
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    ...the court noted that state law gives individuals the right to not speak to police and even walk away if they aren’t charged with anything. The court said when an individual does flee, the action doesn't necessarily mean the person is guilty.
     
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    They'll probably just start charging people for things that would otherwise overlook.

    Jaywalking, shit like that. This isn't going to help shit.
     
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    Running is not an admission of guilt.
     
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    Who says it is? It couldn't be more suspicious whatever the reason for running is.

    I watched cops and I always thought it was wrong that they would find a baggie of drugs after a foot chase and charge the guy with it. If there is other evidence like fingerprints, fine. If you have no other evidence then he got away with it by running as far as I am concerned.
     

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