1st Debate! Trump vs Clinton

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  1. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Trump fleeces the sheep, and this guy is one. Other sheep: Trump U. students, Trump voters.

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  2. oldfisherman

    oldfisherman Unicorn Wrangler

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    Somewhere in this section of past threads, I have mentioned at least twice that I have disliked Trump since long before he decided to run for public office. Trump was well known in the business community as someone you did not want to do business with. You would get screwed if you did business with Trump, period.

    That said, many people still did business with him. Reason, he would dangle a sweet carrot. Some people could not resist the temptation. Some people just trust everyone.

    He is using the same techniques in his campaign that he uses business. He makes wild promises, tangles the carrot. If you think he will deliver on his promises, you are just as naive as the architect who appears to be a very nice person, that trusted a con artist.
     
  3. e_blazer

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    For once, barfo, I have no disagreement with anything you said here.
     
  4. dviss1

    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    Trump looked like he was on coke. I'm not saying he was.

    This post confirms that of you're completely against Clinton you'll see weird things. Moderator was bias? With Trump acting like it was a courtroom TV show (he interrupted her almost every time she spoke with one of his rabid responses). He interrupted Holt SO many times just to tell another lie. He was pretty incoherent for most of that shit show.
     
  5. blue32

    blue32 Who wants a mustache ride?

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    If you don't think he was bias slightly towards Hillary you are deaf my friend. He barely touches the email scandal (only when Trump brought it up), he doesn't touch Benghazi, nor does he touch the DNC and how Hillary has hired the recently resigned chair.

    Yet he blasts him about his tax returns, birther bullshit, and this stupid ass Iraq war that was years ago.

    It was bias pure and simple. Not strong, but it was there.
     
  6. bodyman5000 and 1

    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    Redo Nafta
    20 trillion in debt with shitty infrastructure
    If I paid taxes you'd have wasted them anyway
    Jobs leaving the country
    Bring trillions of dollars back to this country.
    Inner cities like living in a hellhole
    You've been doing this for thirty years
    The fed is completely political

    If he was more self aware and just said something like "I've taken advantage of many of the loopholes and regulations that have hurt this country. In my life I've seen what some of these things have dont to the middle class. I'll try and fix them, not as an insider who wants to profit off of you. I've done that and I want to stop it from happening in the future"

    He'd win by a mile, but he has spent too much time talking out his ass and making fun of disabled reporters and multiple other things they can make ads about and make people aware of how off he can be.

    He says he knows more about ISIS than the generals. If he just admitted when he doesn't know everything people would love him. Right now he is just like a poster on a message board who rambles on.


    Anyway, the things I listed are how a sane person could think he won. Those issues are important to people.
     
  7. Sedatedfork

    Sedatedfork Rip City Rhapsody

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    I have seen Hillary supporters passionately claim the opposite. I didn't watch much of the debate, so I honestly have no opinion on it, but if this election cycle has taught me anything it's that people see what they want to see.
     
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    Sedatedfork Rip City Rhapsody

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    Also, the Trumpers seem to have more loyal supporters than Hillary. They seem very politically motivated. Social Media is so skewed. I have a hard time figuring out whether it is representative at all of any political realities.
     
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    Just a minor addition: "I've taken advantage of many of the loopholes and regulations that have hurt this country. Loopholes created by the Congress that my opponent was a part of and that were signed into law by her husband. In my life I've seen what some of these things have dont to the middle class. I'll try and fix them, not as an insider who wants to profit off of you. I've done that and I want to stop it from happening in the future"
     
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    fify.
     
  11. dviss1

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    Blasts? Is that truly the adverb you want to use to describe what he did? If Trump didn't blatantly LIE about all of those things there wouldn't have been any follow up question to ask.

    Trump overtalked everyone on the stage with incoherent lie after lie. At least Clinton answered the questions. Bias... Rightys always complain about the moderator having to deal with their candidates lies.

    I'm not voting for either of them. I CAN'T STAND Clinton.

    But it's pretty obvious that you can't see past your bias for a frothy mouthed, blather filled, bag of sweat to see how sorry he is.
     
  12. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    I am nothing like your friend. I am not metro or vain. I don't spend my money on expensive clothes and such. I am actually a very thrifty guy.
     
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    How does anyone believe him? Does he seem like a sincere guy to his supporters? That blows my mind.
     
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    blue32 Who wants a mustache ride?

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    Shall I pick a different word so you calm down?

    Lies? Let's not talk about whose the worse liar in this race. We have 33,000 reasons and some dead Americans to show whose the worst.
     
  15. bodyman5000 and 1

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    Yep, he could have walked off and said "I have important things to do, more important than trading talking points with a career politician"

    That would be awesome with the right guy. Cuban ALMOST seems like that guy but then he proves he is out of touch just like any rich dude.
     
  16. MARIS61

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    dviss is simply quoting a tweet by Howard Dean of all people.

     
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    I kept waiting for the police to run out on stage and shoot the black guy.
     
  18. riverman

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    I think most voters decided a year ago who they'll vote for....any polls or graphs are just feeding the chatter on the internet and tv.....I've never answered a poll about my political views by any nat'l polling group...nor has anyone I know. I think when the vote comes out, people will be surprised that it wasn't decided by the internet or news media but by informed citizens with their own opinions...being loud doesn't make Trump right. The silent majority that votes doesn't need to gather and shout about it one way or the other. Vote for who you like but any intelligent viewer that watched that debate last night should have a clear picture of what the options are. Trump embarrassed himself quite simply.
     
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    Killer comeback and the defining moment in the debate.

    Here is all the proof you need to see MassMedia is owned by the DNC and their owners.

    Were they impartial and unbiased that would be the phrase re-itterated ad naseum for the next few weeks, all but assuring Clinton's demise. Every campaign has a defining phrase embraced by the media that decides who we get for President. That is the reality of our election process today.

    Clinton has no imagination and can't move her lips without lying so they are truly struggling to find a serious catchphrase to help save her ass from jail (where she is going if she loses the election), but she's never made a memorable statement in her long, long life of political pandering and failures heaped on top of failures.
     
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  20. Chris Craig

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    Wasn't going to happen. Lester Holt was moderating.
     
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