The 2nd Presidential Debate - The Donald vs The Hillary!

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  1. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Funny thing. Ironic, I mean.

    When I was in college, about the same time some of these accusations were made, we used to joke that if a guy went down to the quad and simply asked every girl that passed by, "let's fuck," that you'd get slapped a few times and a few would say "yes."

    The guy might have made passes at many many women. "Inappropriate touching" like kissing is what a pass is all about. It's absurd to think that the dating ritual should include asking each other for permission to touch beforehand. A guy makes a pass, the woman says "I'm not interested" (or is interested) and that's that.

    The timing of these accusations is most definitely suspect. The veracity of some of the stories does not hold up to even a little bit of scrutiny. The news organizations are manufacturing "proof" to support the women's claims and the veracity of that "proof" is dubious.

    Strategically, the crook's allies simply need to keep Trump on the defensive about these (bogus) claims through the election so the crook's record isn't scrutinized any further.

    http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/exclusive-inside-the-donald-trump-sexual-assault-lawsuit/

    In addition to her personal accounts, Harth made a litany of other claims against Trump including allegations that he had an adulterous affair, that he retaliated against those who crossed him by making sexually charged allegations and even accused him of making “racial slurs.” Harth said that on the same evening of Jan 9, 1993 at a “Calendar Girl” competition Trump directed “any black female contestant to be excluded.”

    At the time, Trump vigorously denied the charges saying the suit “was a desperate attempt to get me to settle a case they can’t win.” But then, not even a month after filing the case, Harth withdrew it. The court record indicates it was “voluntarily dismissed” but “without prejudice,” meaning she could have re-filed the case. The timing is interesting because at around the same time the case was withdrawn, Trump reportedly agreed to settle with her husband’s company, The American Dream Enterprise, according to an obscure 1997 gossip article in the New York Daily News which appears to be the only mainstream media coverage of either suit.

    American Dream Enterprise had filed a breach of contract lawsuit in 1995 against Trump which was apparently peppered with Harth’s allegations, according to the Daily News. LawNewz.com reviewed the court docket from the breach-of-contract case and it does indeed show that the affidavits of George Houraney and Jill Harth were both ordered sealed in September of 1996. There are no other accounts of what was contained in those sealed affidavits.

    LawNewz.com spoke briefly to Jill Harth in an interview last week. Harth wouldn’t’ discuss the settlement or much about either lawsuit. When asked about the allegations, Harth told LawNewz that she was “under duress” and “pressured” to file the case. But when questioned about who applied that pressure, she wouldn’t say.

    So were the sexual harassment allegations true? Harth says: “The allegations were twisted and embellished. Everything could be looked at in different way.”

    Harth, who now runs a beauty business, says she’s put the lawsuit behind her, and get this, she says she’d even vote for Donald Trump in the upcoming election — what she calls “supporting a friend.”

    “I saw him [Donald] recently, and he said I looked good,” Harth said. “I have nothing but good things to say about Donald.”
     
  2. riverman

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    You don't know who people running WikiLeaks really are or how honest they are.....but you trust them..that's a choice you make...you also lump the information they post as a collection of thieves info....probably true in some circumstance...not so much in others...if you think govt doesn't tweak classified info to suit it's purpose....you just don't understand how classified material is dealt with. Over the past couple of months, you've put more effort into justifying Trump's media complaints than any other political issue......because it supports your agenda...I'm lobbying hard against Trump because I DON'T TRUST HIM period...I choose to read articles that support my anti Trump stance....if it goes against your choices..you'll find an article to support that...the fact is Denny....you choose your info based on personal preferences....facts in the world of politics are not arrived at by scientific method at all...they are actually more like Casey Kasem's top 40 most popular hits....
     
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    Let's take the language and analyze it....talking about high school locker rooms....I was thinking about how east coast mobsters gave us the term...I'd hit that...I'd tap that...so hitting a woman meant getting sex from her....tap that meant getting sex...but a hitman kills people and in the mob it's called tapping a mark.....probably Sinatra and his buddies introduced the term but it's sort of a strange male term for courtship or lust
     
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    I formally challenge @The Real Donald to a third debate here on SportsTwo, the premiere website for Portland Trailblazers fans and for some reason alt-right politics.
     
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    blue32 Who wants a mustache ride?

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    I'm not sure you understand what Wikileaks is sir.
     
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    I actually do...but I don't pretend that it's flawless or has not been altered..that's an assumption. I also don't trust polls...some have the ability to vote multiple times ...I was reading WikiLeaks just yesterday to become familiar and their search options are linked to periodicals and journalists....I know govt is corrupt...I know most banks are corrupt.....I used to work for the Navy in msg processing with a top secret clearance...if you think it's transparent....you sir, do not understand. I sense a growing trend toward folks following an internet based govt and I sure as hell don't trust that either. Hackers can project some amazing data and make you believe it's the real deal. I'm not computer savy enough to trouble shoot their system or methods. There was no internet when I did that job and I promise you....millions of burn bags went up in smoke from military communications for many decades..those msgs are gone forever..poof....if you think Hoover was transparent or Kissinger...the fact is that to do their job, they are trained to be elusive with info.....now you can open this can of email worms and script them to suit your needs. The reason I dreaded a Trump Clinton race was the tons of shit that would be dragged into it....and it has been. You guys can salute the WikiLeaks nation all you want....it's just another set of words and characters in English....
     
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    True. I should have said: you don't see a difference between being an asshole and claiming to be a groper?

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    Perhaps Steve Bannon is going to be the new CEO of the Trailblazers after the election.

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    Monday morning....I know Marz
     
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    All I really know about WikiLeaks is they have an online, searchable, database of documents governments and candidates don't want the public to see. And they were equally devastating to the Bush administration as it is to the crook and Obama administration.

    My agenda is to have the media do its job. If it isn't, then why vote? We should just let the media pick the politicians. I see it as a VERY dangerous thing.
     
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    I just think that Wikileaks is far more transparent than any news media in the USA by far.
     
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    I liked this part from the story you linked;

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    In the long run, WikiLeaks matters for two reasons. The first is that we need a better balance of power between people and power. Information – and specifically the Internet’s power to spread it – is our best defense against bad, unaccountable behavior.

    Second, we do want to trust our governments and institutions. The point of openness is to make those in power behave better – and to make us trust them more. Rather than viewing them as enemies, we should know what they are up to, and perhaps have a little more say in what they do."
     
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    Really? What law would that be violating?

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    Illegal campaign donations.

    Candidates aren't allowed to coordinate with their PACs.
     
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    I don't see anything in there about a PAC... what am I missing?

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    The media is a PAC for her.

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    Fits them to a "T"
     
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    Ha ha.

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_action_committee

    At the U.S. federal level, an organization becomes a PAC when it receives or spends more than $2,600 for the purpose of influencing a federal election, according to the Federal Election Campaign Act.[3]

    (How much $$$ is a column worth? $2600, if not more.)

    According to FEC advisories, Super PACs are not allowed to coordinate directly with candidates or political parties. This restriction is intended to prevent them from operating campaigns that complement or parallel those of the candidates they support or engaging in negotiations that could result in quid pro quobargaining between donors to the PAC and the candidate or officeholder. However, it is legal for candidates and Super PAC managers to discuss campaign strategy and tactics through the media.[24][25]
     

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