Politics The 3rd Presidential Debate - Turd Sandwich vs Giant Douche!

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  1. MarAzul

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    Nothing in the Constitution even remotely comes close to granting the court the power to issue these edicts.
     
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    Why? He used a Spanish word (for man) in referencing the illegal aliens that pour in from Mexico that cause crime. What he said was true.


    Do you get pissed when people end emails with "gracias" after they wrote English through the entire thing?
     
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    That's going to go over big....hear that folks....sex requires money!
     
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    River come on. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to know having unprotected sex can lead to unexpected pregnancy. The point I was making is that, either abstain, or use proper birth control, aside from abortion.

    How people can so eagerly accept taking another person's life is nuts....
     
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    Sure it does.

    14th amendment, section 1:

    ...nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law...

    The woman's LIBERTY is the question that is resolved.

    The 4th also suggests a right to privacy:

    ...to be secure in their persons...
     
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    Not all people define life the same....or the taking of it but I respect your choices..do what gives you great joy but don't dictate what others justify as necessary...we're not an endangered species ....then there's the death penalty..taking people's life...then war....taking people's lives is not confined to abortion. I've never heard of any woman aborting a fully formed child....I've never met one who would risk an abortion past 3 months. How many sperm cells have you left to die in a tissue? Is that life? I'm completely pro choice and in 3 decades of marriage...had one child. I don't think people should have 8 babies but they are free to do so even if I choose not to
    I'm very happy to live where there are these options and freedoms
     
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    The cops take peoples' lives. Those who argue against "taking a life" tend to defend it when cops do it.

    Soldiers take peoples' lives. It's perfectly legal.

    People kill in self defense. Or are allowed to be hunted in Florida (stand your ground). Those who argue against "taking a life" defended taking a life then.

    Even if you concede that a fetus is a human being, this is a situation where taking the life is just as acceptable. The fetus has NO RIGHT to the woman's body without her permission.
     
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    And you say this based on what legal precept? If you concede that a fetus is a human being then you have a problem with a law that allows for depriving a person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law... A generic law allowing for abortions wouldn't constitute due process for each individual fetus.

    I hate that this is an issue where people try to lawyer up to support their viewpoint. I'd much prefer that the issue be dealt with directly through legislative process to come to a standard that the majority of Americans support and then people just deal with the adopted law.
     
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    Yes, yes, we have heard these before and I am not about to discuss the meaning of liberty or the stretching of the meaning. But tell us how you derive the court dictating the text of a law.
    You know, which trimester is for this or that.
     
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    Good post sir! Leave it to the states to find the solutions, one may be the better solution. Not everything requires a single answer.
     
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    One might argue that by willingly participating in the act that resulted in the sharing of the body, rights to said body has been granted to all spermatozoa permitted inside.
     
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    I believe people who don't believe in abortion should be free to not have abortions but stay the fuck out of the decision making process for anyone who believes in abortion...simple. Freedom of choice!
     
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    This is a big point.....willingly
     
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    Obviously I'm discussing the rule (consensual sex) rather than the exception (rape).
     
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    I believe people who don't believe in child labor should be free to not have child labor, but stay out of the decision making process for anyone who believes in child labor...simple. Freedom of choice!

    Yeah, that logic doesn't necessarily hold up.
     
  17. MarAzul

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    That does seem to be implicit consent to the resulting occupation.
     
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    Well if you can have your reasons for murder being authorized, can I have mine?
     
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    not even in the same ballpark as committing to raising and mentoring a child..way to interpret my freedom of choice to child labor ....what's next, slavery or torture? That argument is sort of meant for the child labor law thread. Rape or incest are where I support a woman's right to choose abortion..also disease or life threatening conditions....but you've got them making tennis shoes as an example?
     
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    you distort the term murder in my reality, but we have a death penalty so you have yours
     

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