Oregon Standoff Verdict: Not Guilty on all charges

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  1. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Yeah. The conspiracy charge with the specter of entrapment (who knows what the informants were saying while they were there?) made that a pretty big reach. If they would have gone for criminal trespass and vandalism it would have been much easier to prosecute.
     
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  2. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Well, also wasn't it something to do with trying to prove that they were preventing federal employees from doing their job while there weren't any federal employees out there? It's hard to prevent someone from doing something if they're not actually there.
     
  3. SlyPokerDog

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    Would you show up to your job if people armed with guns had taken over your office?
     
  4. Natebishop3

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    Wasn't the occupation during the time of the year when it's shut down? I didn't really follow the occupation or the trial because, frankly, I don't give a shit about a bunch of rednecks that took over a government building in the middle of nowhere.
     
  5. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    One could argue that the people that worked at the refuge had work tied to computers on the premises. I can freely admit as a contractor for FWS that not everything gets stored on a network (very little in fact).
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Refuges have work they do year round.
     
  7. Natebishop3

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    Eh, you're probably right. I have no idea. Just parroting something that I had read as one possible reason the verdict was not guilty.
     
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    I'm sure that there's work to be done at the refuge year around, but the case hinged on proving that the intent of the protest was to keep federal workers from doing their jobs. That seems like a pretty high bar to prove. And, would you want them to be jailed on such a charge? The next BLM protest in DC might keep federal workers from doing their jobs.
     
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    Yup. That charge seems to have a bit of a slippery slope.

    They should have pursued the low hanging fruit and called it a day. Pretty much everyone knows they are guilty of trespassing and vandalism.
     
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    I wonder if there will be a civil suit filled? Those idiots did millions of dollars worth of damage.
     
  11. Natebishop3

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    How do you determine who is responsible when more than half of the idiots were on the government payroll?
     
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    Because the videoed themselves on backhoes digging bunkers.
     
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    They had to let them out...somebody has to intimidate voters at the polling stations and they have experience
     
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    Maybe they are slated for top positions in the Trump administration. Secretary of the Interior Ammon Bundy, anyone?

    barfo
     
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    Actually, I found the (dry) tasing of Mumford to be the most entertaining part of the entire dog and pony show. The stupid shit made a habit of challenging and mouthing off to the judge throughout the trial. The judge didn't come off particularly competent and the jury had just handed her an unexpected bucket of shit. What did he expect with his insubordinate attitude?? Mumford should have been smart enough to keep his mouth shut and take the win graciously. And anyway, my understanding is that the marshalls took him down with no encouragement from her. No matter how much education an individual has, it's obvious that common sense isn't included in the price of tuition......Mumford simply got the part of an education that college didn't provide him.....
     
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    Ive already put you on the watch dog list
     
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    Sly would make a horrible watch dog.
     
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    They are. Headed right to NV.
     
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    No such luck. They're sharpieing numbers on them, putting them in dog kennels, and strip searching Native girls then throwing them in holding cells naked.
     
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