I said Amare, not Marion. Howard owns Marion. Nobody on your team has even been close to containing Nash so it's all theory. The only thing that'll stop Nash is his own back. Oh, I see you quoted the other guy instead. You are right about Marion but we have 4 guys who shoot above 51% so I don't really care if Marion won't score, he'll be there and produce in other areas while Diaw or Amare and Nash will go crazy on you guys. I think Raja should do a good job on Terry...Harris and Barbosa will be fun to watch. Harris is better defensively but Barbosa has improved so it'll be pretty nice to watch them go head to head.But no one should be saying Marion can stop Dirk after last year. He might give him some trouble but Dirk will have a great series if we play eachother.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ASUFan22 @ Jan 31 2007, 05:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I said Amare, not Marion. Howard owns Marion. Nobody on your team has even been close to containing Nash so it's all theory. The only thing that'll stop Nash is his own back. Oh, I see you quoted the other guy instead. You are right about Marion but we have 4 guys who shoot above 51% so I don't really care if Marion won't score, he'll be there and produce in other areas while Diaw or Amare and Nash will go crazy on you guys. I think Raja should do a good job on Terry...Harris and Barbosa will be fun to watch. Harris is better defensively but Barbosa has improved so it'll be pretty nice to watch them go head to head.But no one should be saying Marion can stop Dirk after last year. He might give him some trouble but Dirk will have a great series if we play eachother.</div>Nobody in the league can stop Steve Nash. I though Ricky Davis played great defense on him and he still had like 17 pts and 17 assists. He's just too good.
Okay, we have NO ONE to gaurd Nash or Marion?? Well I totally forgot that Devin Harris and Josh Howard are taking the playoffs off. Those two guys are probably are two best defenders and guess who'll they'll be gaurding? You guessed it, Nash and Marion. Now they wont stop Nash, but they certainly will hastle them enough to make them a little less effective. Good lord, I know I'm new to this forum but could you actually read and reply to what I write?Let's break it out line by line...Dallas has no one that can guard Steve Nash, and has no one that can stop Amare Stoudemire. Somehow, you went ahead and took the name "Shawn Marion" from my next sentence and replaced Amare's name with it. By the way, thanks for telling us who will be covering Nash! Wow, we had no idea. The bottom line, which you admit, is that you won't be able to stop Nash. That's what I mean when I say "no one can guard Steve." You can put whomever on him, and you won't stop him.Your total avoidance of the Amare factor shows your fear. And you should be afraid. Now, to my next sentence...You don't really match up well against Marion, but I'll grant that you might be able to contain Raja Bell. You don't really match up well against Marion. Yes, I know Josh Howard "owns" him, but I also know that Josh Howard, much like the majority of your team, has endurance issues. I just don't see him being able to run with Marion for 7 games without blowing an ankle, a knee, or just running out of gas. In this sentence you will also notice that I point out you'll most likely be able to contain Raja Bell, to which you reply that he won't be a concern. Thanks again for parroting the obvious.Perhaps the issue isn't with Phoenix fans but with your ability to read and comprehend? I'm new here. obviously, but seeing how you totally butchered the comprehension of my first post I'm not exactly confident that you'll take meaning to this one without going off on another meaningless tirade.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Maligzar @ Feb 1 2007, 03:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Somehow, you went ahead and took the name "Shawn Marion" from my next sentence and replaced Amare's name with it. By the way, thanks for telling us who will be covering Nash! Wow, we had no idea. The bottom line, which you admit, is that you won't be able to stop Nash. That's what I mean when I say "no one can guard Steve." You can put whomever on him, and you won't stop him.Your total avoidance of the Amare factor shows your fear. And you should be afraid.</div>I think the point of pj's argument was to point out that although no one will "stop" an MVP, there are certainly different levels of defense regardless. I can't think of too many point guards that I would rather have match up against Nash. As for Amare, he is indeed a great player. I definitely wouldn't pick my guys on a 2 on 2 between Nash and Amare, Dirk and Howard. Luckily this game is not based on 2 on 2. I'd take our 11 or 12 guys versus your 7 or 8, and I'd take Avery over D'Antoni. There's not much to be afraid of from that perspective.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Maligzar @ Feb 1 2007, 03:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You don't really match up well against Marion. Yes, I know Josh Howard "owns" him, but I also know that Josh Howard, much like the majority of your team, has endurance issues. I just don't see him being able to run with Marion for 7 games without blowing an ankle, a knee, or just running out of gas. In this sentence you will also notice that I point out you'll most likely be able to contain Raja Bell, to which you reply that he won't be a concern. Thanks again for parroting the obvious.</div>lolol.Yeah, our guys have such horrible endurance issues. Come on, did you seriously even watch the playoffs last year? Do you know the meaning of endurance? Our guys are practically the definition of endurance. All I recall is that during the 2006 playoffs, Josh Howard twisted his ankle. I don't remember him being out for more than a game. I do recall that Dirk also had an instance where he twisted his own ankle, but I'm pretty sure he didn't miss anything. Jason Terry had a messed up thumb throughout the whole playoffs and part of the regular season before that, but he didn't miss anything aside from that suspension. I honestly can't see where you're coming from when you say that our team has endurance problems. That is downright silly, especially from a Suns fan.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, our guys have such horrible endurance issues. Come on, did you seriously even watch the playoffs last year? Do you know the meaning of endurance? Our guys are practically the definition of endurance. All I recall is that during the 2006 playoffs, Josh Howard twisted his ankle. I don't remember him being out for more than a game. I do recall that Dirk also had an instance where he twisted his own ankle, but I'm pretty sure he didn't miss anything. Jason Terry had a messed up thumb throughout the whole playoffs and part of the regular season before that, but he didn't miss anything aside from that suspension. I honestly can't see where you're coming from when you say that our team has endurance problems. That is downright silly, especially from a Suns fan.</div>Explain to me what is silly? All I ever hear from Mavs fans is about your team's injuries. Hell, you just gave us a laundry list and you're being very selective. Endurance is also more than being on the court, it's being on the court healthy and as close to 100% as possible. Did I watch the playoffs? Every game. I have a clear memory of the Mavs dominating us on the inside and exposing our weakness that the Lakers had showcased. I also know that Mavs fans know they can't beat Phoenix the same way this year. For while your team is pretty much the same Mavs that we have seen for the last couple of years; our team has continued to change and improve with each season.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Maligzar @ Feb 2 2007, 08:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Explain to me what is silly? All I ever hear from Mavs fans is about your team's injuries. Hell, you just gave us a laundry list and you're being very selective. Endurance is also more than being on the court, it's being on the court healthy and as close to 100% as possible. Did I watch the playoffs? Every game. I have a clear memory of the Mavs dominating us on the inside and exposing our weakness that the Lakers had showcased. I also know that Mavs fans know they can't beat Phoenix the same way this year. For while your team is pretty much the same Mavs that we have seen for the last couple of years; our team has continued to change and improve with each season.</div>Actually you're entirely wrong. Here are a few definitions (hint: from a dictionary) of endurance:1. the fact or power of enduring or bearing pain, hardships, etc.2. the ability or strength to continue or last, esp. despite fatigue, stress, or other adverse conditions; stamina: He has amazing physical endurance.3. lasting quality; duration: His friendships have little endurance.4. something endured, as a hardship; trial.What do you call an injury? I think it's fair to say that it is pain, a hardship, stress, and an adverse condition. You didn't say our players were injury-prone (which I wouldn't entirely agree with either); you said they lacked endurance, which is completely idiotic. Calling those few players a laundry list is ridiculous. I listed three players, all of which had great performances during the playoffs. Your team, on the other hand, was the one missing a star player last year. You lost Raja Bell at one point during the playoffs, as well. There were also times when Nash's legs were brought into question. To act like all of your players were 100% is pretty silly. It's simply a matter of the pot calling the kettle black.edit: I'd also like to hear how I was being "selective" about what injuries I pointed out. What other injuries did we have? You tell me.I don't think I'd say that our fans think that at all. Maybe at RBS or OTR or whatever forum you come from you got the impression that Mavs fans are scared. I think most Mavs fans here feel secure with how we've played against you as of late. I'm not saying that we'd blow you out, but if you think you're going to dominate us... then wow, just wow.The only real improvement I have seen on your team this year is Amare. I know you picked up James Jones this offseason. Other than that, your core is the same as the past few years just as ours has been. If you would like to explain what other substantial changes your team has made, I'd really be interested to hear it. As for our team, we've gone from one of the worst defenses in the league to one of the best. We picked up Devean George, who I guess everyone thought was done, Austin Croshere, who has been big as of late, and Anthony Johnson, who, well, is a point guard, unlike Marquis Daniels. Greg Buckner isn't a slouch and Josh Howard has improved dramatically. You're trying to act all high and mighty about how your team is, but I suppose everything you bring up is actually some projection of an issue with your team. I think Dr. Freud called it "penis envy."
