Will the new President make Oregon great again?

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  1. bodyman5000 and 1

    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    Nope, he should have made it Make America Solvent Again from the very beginning. I don't for the life of me understand why people want to continue to kick the can down the road. I just saw a new stat that was something like over 90 million Americans don't participate in the work force.

    There is a point when you fix a car that it isn't worth doing it because it costs more than it is worth. We may already be past that point. I've watched the videos from Europe that show what idiotic liberals will do to ruin this country. That you choose not to believe is on you. Saying I told you so is always fun for me but if I tell someone not to jump off the top of a skyscraper, I'm going to be right but so what?
     
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    There are 74 million people under the age of 18.
    There are 40 million people that are over the age of 65.

    http://www.census.gov/prod/cen2010/briefs/c2010br-03.pdf
     
  3. Chris Craig

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    It will neither of their jobs to fix Oregon. That is up to our state government...our governor, senators, representatives...
     
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    not always
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  5. bodyman5000 and 1

    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    I'd still tell them they were stupid. They won't always die but someone will.
     
  7. MarAzul

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    My goodness, I had no idea so many lack the knowledge the the US Army Corps of Engineers is responsible for inland Navigation systems through the entire nation including Oregon.
    Wow! one of the articles I linked spoke to the lack of funding within the Corp (administered by the Obama administration). I expect Clinton, if you fellas elect her, to continue this policy of neglect.

    While money for the Corp has been in many bills passed by Congress, Obama has rejected them all. Our Governor has no power to fix this. Our list of Democrat representatives might have a role but they don't fix this.

    How long has liberal leadership been running the ship of Portland? I sure don't think any conservative leadership shut the Port of Portland down. Do you?

    Then we have this thought;
    "Your expectations of one individual are unrealistic. It's his or her job to worry about the big picture and our place in the world."

    Like I said in the opening. Our place in the world now, here in Oregon, is to ship close to nothing from Oregon to the rest of the world except wood chips and logs. I might like it if the leader did strive to improve our place in the world. I might still have the healthcare I earned. I might even be able to point to where our place in the world has improved. I do not see it. I do not hear how it will improve with the anointed replacement. I don't even think they know what the fuck the Corp of Engineers do! Apparently the people that vote for them don't either.
     
  8. UncleCliffy'sDaddy

    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    Having lived in the general area of the lock at Willamette Falls for my entire life, I would love to see it maintained and operating. But I can tell you that for at least a generation it has had no real "commercial" use or value. They were kept in service mainly for recreational, historical and educational use. Both my kids went through them in "war" canoes on school field trips. They were operated with little or no maintenance for years until they became a safety hazard. With funds needed elsewhere on more important projects, no one in any real position of power has been interested in putting funds into something that is not economically feasible. Sad but true......
     
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    Trump has said from the beginning we are going to rebuild our infrastructure, which will create jobs as a side benefit.

    Clinton's New World Order ideology is what deliberately created the decay of the world's best infrastructure in the first place.
     
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    Kate Brown is being groomed by Michael Bloomberg to be his "Super-Hillary" a few terms down the line.
     
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    No, Trump has said, it's on his website, that he will rebuild our infrastructure through privatization.

    Beautiful Central Oregon won't be so beautiful when it's filled with toll booths and billboards.
     
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    Our infrastructure has lagged since the late 50s....after world war 2 the Japanese and Germans retooled their infrastructure after a pretty serious demolition...we hung on to industrial age machinery and they were way past most of that...some infrastructure changes that would make huge improvements would require moving a lot of wealthy people from their beachfront homes....not going to happen soon..my father worked building expansion bridges just out of the war to save money and get married....those bridges are still there...unchanged since before I was born
     
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    Really? I didn't know this. Is this why Obama is not answering? Does Hillary know this too?

    "A letter signed by two U.S. senators and four members of Congress was sent to President Barack Obama last week, urging funding for a “disposition study” at the Willamette Falls Locks.
    The letter is the latest step in an effort to re-open the locks. Once an oft-used pathway on the Willamette River for freightage and recreation alike, the locks — located adjacent to West Linn Paper Company — were closed three years ago by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers (USACE), which cited “extensive corrosion” and a lack of proper funding to keep the locks open for operation."

    I should think he could at least tell people. (I don't think he even answered).

    http://portlandtribune.com/pt/9-new...ers-seek-solution-to-closed-willamette-locks-

    I suppose these people should be inform too. Let them in on your verdict Uncle Cliffy'sDaddy. No sense letting them piss in the wind.
    http://orsolutions.org/wp-content/u...e-Falls-Locks-State-Task-Force-2016-FINAL.pdf


    Gosh, it seems this progression to dereliction is happening all over the country.
    http://www.carolwolfmedia.com/brawn
    http://archive.larouchepac.com/node/13473
    http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/...-restart-chickamauga-lock-replacement/287935/
    http://www.chattanoogan.com/2016/3/2/319238/Alexander-Says-President-s-Proposed.aspx


    Ha! Progression to dereliction! Seem like a prime example of Progressives in action.

    I traveled most of the waterways in the State this summer, it was apparent every where. State of Washington too, but I can't say I saw most of it, in that State.

    Perhaps someone can help me out. I don't seem to understand, what was valuable, for many years, now becomes of no value. How the hell does this happen, but only here???
    All over the East Coast, canals and waterways are cherished for providing access to thousands of properties via boat, to owners, cruisers, and tourists. They have value there, why the hell not here??? One thing I do understand, if it doesn't work, it will help no one create value.

    Sigh! when I look at that beautiful river, that runs right through the middle of Portland, I see a jewel. It should be a treasure to boast about, to attract visitors, cruisers, a destination with marine parks all along the shore. From Portland to Eugene and farther for small craft. It could be a delightful cruise with just a little infrastructure.
    No Value??? Please.
     
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    Maybe you need to make a stronger effort to digest what I wrote. The locks were closed because of corrosion (a safety hazard) due to lack of maintenance. The locks have not been used...even when operating....for much if any commerce for years. Trucking goods is more efficient and economically feasible. As I pointed out, it was mainly used for recreation. As far as a disposition study goes, "disposition" means what do they do with it. Do they repair it, abandon it or demolish it? That is yet to be determined. And as I noted, no one in any real position of power (namely a Republican dominated Congress) has been interested in putting any money into it. Senators and Representatives might impress the folks back home but in Washington they're still fairly small beer, especially when from a "podunk" state that doesn't carry much weight. No one outside the state cares about one little lock that, at least in their minds is nothing more than a regional toy for recreational boaters. I'm on your side on this particular issue. I'm just trying to point out the reality of why nothing has been done.
     
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    Thanks Hobbes.
    "
    The navigation channel and ocean bar
    crossings of most coastal river mouths and
    bays must be dredged periodically to maintain
    their depths due to natural buildup of silt
    deposits. Coastal jetties also require periodic
    maintenance in order to protect navigational
    access to smaller ports and harbors. Federal
    funding for maintenance dredging of many of
    Oregon’s shallow-draft fishing ports is
    threatened annually with reduction or
    elimination
    ."

    I can vouch for this fact. They are flat out dangerous when not maintained.
     
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    Super, I am glad were see the waste. I fear we do not see the same reason why, and that is the issue. "when from a "podunk" state that doesn't carry much weight." This podunk state should not vote more of the same progression to dereliction.
     

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