Politics Trump just announced he will not repeal Obamacare

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  1. 3RA1N1AC

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    Nowhere to shop. No major insurers remain. They have all pulled up stakes and left us high and dry.

    Originally we had MODA and LIFEWISE. They were always around $300 mo for full coverage before Obamacare. Now neither is even available no matter the price.
     
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    ok......I'm talking about recent admissions of backing off his campaign promises post campaign...in his transition meetings but hey......it made me feel much better
     
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    So in essence it's cheaper to pay the 5k fine for no insurance and use cash for medical services....terrible situation.
     
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    Insurance is not the correct modality to provide healthcare.
     
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    THIS. They are a cartel plain and simple.
     
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    It's not even that.
     
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    Finally the entire nation finds something to agree about.
     
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    I heard a Trump voter saying (on NPR no less) that if he doesn't build the wall "he'll only be there 4 years." Now, here's hoping he's only there 4 years, but I just don't see his base deserting him for anything. This is a cult of personality.

    (And he has the personality of a cunt.)
     
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    Are you hinting towards HSAs?
     
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    I think common ground runs deeper than we think.... apparently a lot of americans want legal pot
     
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    He's going to build the wall.
     
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    Health Saving Accounts?

    Ummmm..... no.
     
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    but he said some of it will be fenced now.....and he's gone from 18 million deportations to 2 million, maybe 3 according to his interview
     
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    And Mexico's going to pay for it, right?
     
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    I can't buy insurance like I had before Obama care either, nothing even close. I don't know whether to be amused or pissed when I read the comment of people in this forum
    and else where about how wonderful Obama is to bring them his marvelous creation. Their understanding of what they got and what we lost is simply depressing to observe.
     
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    Most large business still self insure. That is they take the risk for each individual and it costs them much less than buying insurance would because of the size of their pool of employees.
    Then we have other pools of people, Military, VA, Medicare and more, that do not buy commercial insurance. This leave something less than 20 percent of the population actually buying insurance which must foot the bill for the additional cost of providing insurance to people with preexisting conditions. The large businesses don't have to absorb this new cost, they still give people medical exams before hiring them. The cost falls on a small subset of the population that is also strapped with the government law requiring them to purchase health insurance, the cost of which is blown sky high by the preexisting condition law.

    If the government drops the law requiring people purchase insurance, almost none will unless they are subsidize because the cost is just too high. Well what then?
    Just as we see today, Insurance companies dropping out of areas of the country or totally out of the health insurance business.

    Trump isn't going to start a war with Congress over this, the Republicans already have plans to change a lot of the Obama care Law, but keep the Preexisting condition stuff, the popular stuff.
    This isn't logical, but logical does not rule, getting reelected does.

    Ha! It is even more humorous when you throw in the other big popular part of Obama Care, keeping the part of covering young people up to the age of 26 on dads plan. Thus another reduction in the pool of healthy needed, to support the very expensive preexisting condition pool.

    Obama as totally fucked up a system that worked for the majority, and replaced it with a system that hardly works for most, serving only a minority and them only because they are subsicized.

    I don't see an answer here other than get the friggin government out of the mix, Or totally run the system and god help us with that one.
     
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    From what I've read and researched just from this forum, I've learned more about the difference...that's always good. I cut way back on earning income as well as my wife so that we are eligible for affordable care and before Obamacare, my wife was uninsured, I was covered at work until just a year ago...I can always use the VA here for anything major. She can fly home and have anything major done in Taiwan...the cost of the trip is a fraction of the price here.
     

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